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Battleminds: OK defenders, fantastic... strikers?
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<blockquote data-quote="Destil" data-source="post: 5086886" data-attributes="member: 1980"><p>It's not bad for a defender. The Cha build is a sub-striker, so that seems fine. At 15th with no magic items aside from the big three:</p><p></p><p>The avenger in my game deals around 30-50 damage a round on average and misses once an encounter, from what I've seen. He usually crits at least once an encounter for something in the 115-145ish range, sometimes twice.</p><p></p><p>The rogue does a consistent 35-60 damage a round, and crits all over the place too (daggermaster). He misses a little more and doesn't deal as much on a crit but he has a lot more utility in his powers.</p><p></p><p>The sorcerer rarely needs to roll over a 4 to hit. He deals a consistent 25-35 with burning spray to two or more targets most rounds and sets up lasting frost/wintertouched to make his successive attacks hit on a 2 and deal 30-40. Also plenty of crits due to how many rolls he gets to make.</p><p></p><p>Our bard does about 15-20 damage most rounds, peaking around 30. However he hands out so many pluses that he may contribute more damage than any other single party member some fights. he also turns the enemies into pinatas filled with delicious candy and keeps us alive.</p><p></p><p>My paladin, finally, is lucky to do 15 damage and I believe his best crit was in the 50 range with a radiant daily power on an undead. His AC is about 4-5 points better than anyone else and hosplitars blessing pretty much makes him in-ignorable. He also grants crazy numbers and bonuses to saves and throws out attack penalties all over the place. A nearly fully defensive build, and he needs it (so many times this resistance or that item or honored foe have been the only reason I'm still alive at the end of a fight).</p><p></p><p>So, no. Those numbers sound quite reasonable and since they don't scale with anything but Con I'm pretty unimpressed overall. You need to dip into Str a bit to make this work, and some of the Cha kickers are <strong>nice</strong>...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Destil, post: 5086886, member: 1980"] It's not bad for a defender. The Cha build is a sub-striker, so that seems fine. At 15th with no magic items aside from the big three: The avenger in my game deals around 30-50 damage a round on average and misses once an encounter, from what I've seen. He usually crits at least once an encounter for something in the 115-145ish range, sometimes twice. The rogue does a consistent 35-60 damage a round, and crits all over the place too (daggermaster). He misses a little more and doesn't deal as much on a crit but he has a lot more utility in his powers. The sorcerer rarely needs to roll over a 4 to hit. He deals a consistent 25-35 with burning spray to two or more targets most rounds and sets up lasting frost/wintertouched to make his successive attacks hit on a 2 and deal 30-40. Also plenty of crits due to how many rolls he gets to make. Our bard does about 15-20 damage most rounds, peaking around 30. However he hands out so many pluses that he may contribute more damage than any other single party member some fights. he also turns the enemies into pinatas filled with delicious candy and keeps us alive. My paladin, finally, is lucky to do 15 damage and I believe his best crit was in the 50 range with a radiant daily power on an undead. His AC is about 4-5 points better than anyone else and hosplitars blessing pretty much makes him in-ignorable. He also grants crazy numbers and bonuses to saves and throws out attack penalties all over the place. A nearly fully defensive build, and he needs it (so many times this resistance or that item or honored foe have been the only reason I'm still alive at the end of a fight). So, no. Those numbers sound quite reasonable and since they don't scale with anything but Con I'm pretty unimpressed overall. You need to dip into Str a bit to make this work, and some of the Cha kickers are [b]nice[/b]... [/QUOTE]
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