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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 8538406" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>I think qa single-class bladesinger is far better.</p><p></p><p>I don't think there is a lot of value here. The bladesinger extra attack in Tasha's is pretty awesome and if that is what you are looking for, I can see you doing that with heavy armor and a heavy weapon but I don't think it is worth it because it needs a feat as well to make it well. So you are giving up all you get with Bladesong, an ASI for GWF and Song of Defense.</p><p></p><p>It will work, but it is a lot to give up. In terms of AC you won't be far ahead of a traditional bladesinger, and not ahead at all at high levels. Additionally, your dexterity saves will be poor, and when you start fighting dragons and such you are going to want BOTH absorb elements and a decent dex save. You are also not getting the movement and concentration buffs you get with bladesong. You are giving up all that plus trading an ASI for a feat to do a few more DPR.</p><p></p><p>If you want more damage, I think in terms of feats there are better ways to go - piercer, Fey touched with Hex, Figthing Intiate and Gift of the Gem Dragon can all give a damage boost and work well with bladesong. Most of them are half feats too that you can simultaneously use to boost dex or intelligence.</p><p></p><p>You don't get a 6th level spell in your build, which means no contingency. This is like gold on a Bladesinger enabling an emergency buff when things go sideways (I like 5th level false life on contingency, but other spells work too).</p><p></p><p>Finally, you lose Song of Defense. This is not used all the time and is expensive to use but when you need it there is no equal. This turns spell slots into hit points, and when you count your spell slots at 10th level this means you have a well of potential hps larger than a Barbarian. It uses a reaction, so you are not going to use it a lot or when something cheaper works (shield, absorb elements), but when an enemy crits you it is very useful.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 8538406, member: 7030563"] I think qa single-class bladesinger is far better. I don't think there is a lot of value here. The bladesinger extra attack in Tasha's is pretty awesome and if that is what you are looking for, I can see you doing that with heavy armor and a heavy weapon but I don't think it is worth it because it needs a feat as well to make it well. So you are giving up all you get with Bladesong, an ASI for GWF and Song of Defense. It will work, but it is a lot to give up. In terms of AC you won't be far ahead of a traditional bladesinger, and not ahead at all at high levels. Additionally, your dexterity saves will be poor, and when you start fighting dragons and such you are going to want BOTH absorb elements and a decent dex save. You are also not getting the movement and concentration buffs you get with bladesong. You are giving up all that plus trading an ASI for a feat to do a few more DPR. If you want more damage, I think in terms of feats there are better ways to go - piercer, Fey touched with Hex, Figthing Intiate and Gift of the Gem Dragon can all give a damage boost and work well with bladesong. Most of them are half feats too that you can simultaneously use to boost dex or intelligence. You don't get a 6th level spell in your build, which means no contingency. This is like gold on a Bladesinger enabling an emergency buff when things go sideways (I like 5th level false life on contingency, but other spells work too). Finally, you lose Song of Defense. This is not used all the time and is expensive to use but when you need it there is no equal. This turns spell slots into hit points, and when you count your spell slots at 10th level this means you have a well of potential hps larger than a Barbarian. It uses a reaction, so you are not going to use it a lot or when something cheaper works (shield, absorb elements), but when an enemy crits you it is very useful. [/QUOTE]
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