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<blockquote data-quote="Big Mac" data-source="post: 5915118" data-attributes="member: 61182"><p>To be honest, I'm glad they disable the ability to buy. I wouldn't want to buy a copy of your Bandit Kingdoms book, only to find out that if I waited six hours I could get one that had less typos and a better cover.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Maybe I should start doing some more reviews. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> I've got a few on Amazon.co.uk, and one over at The Piazza, but a blog might be better.</p><p></p><p>I've got a friend called Megan Robertson that does reviews on a website called <a href="http://www.rpg-resource.org.uk/" target="_blank">RPG Resource</a>. She does very good reviews and was on the panel for the ENnies recently. If you sent her a copy it would be well worth your time.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm certainly hoping for somethihg like that, either via books, free PDFs, websites, wikis or some other medium.</p><p></p><p>In fact I started writing some threads (at The Piazza's GH forum) about my fantasy LG netbooks for <a href="http://www.thepiazza.org.uk/bb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=5704" target="_blank">The Sheldomar Valley</a>, <a href="http://www.thepiazza.org.uk/bb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=5768" target="_blank">Tuf-Fals-Vel Trade Route</a> and <a href="http://www.thepiazza.org.uk/bb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=5790" target="_blank">Iuz's Border States</a>. I was going to do a complete set of threads, and hopefully find out the pros and cons of each region, but there was some talk of LG metaregions sometimes being a bit illogical and I got a bit discouraged with my fantasy concept. But, even if there might be a better way to organise things, I think I might take inspiration from the LG: Bandit Kingdoms book and complete my set of hypothetical books.</p><p></p><p>If I'm very lucky, I might even get to meet some of the people from the LG UK Triad one day. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite6" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":cool:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Aha! I thought it might be a response to a peak in demand, but this makes a lot of sense.</p><p></p><p>One thing that dismays me about D&D books is that they get rare and then bandits (not your sort of bandits) start trying to charge hundreds of dollars or pounds for them on eBay. I just want to (legally) get the books I'm missing and people like that annoy me. So I thought that the idea of PoD, where the book never goes out of print, would mean that it gains no "collectors" value. But if you are stopping and starting your book (to fix typos) that kind of means that you are on the second or third (or maybe even forth) printing by now. I don't know what that will (eventually) mean in the collectors market, but if someone is foolish enough to want to pay extra for the version with no message about the WotC DCMA notice withdrawal, I'll be happy for them to have that and for me to have the one with the more pretty cover. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Spoken like a true door-to-door Bandit Kingdom book salesman!<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I thought this was an interesting idea as soon as I heard of it, but I hope this does not mean that everyone writing for The Oerth Journal switches to selling their stuff and The Oerth Journal dries up. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite9" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":eek:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If things had been different, it would have been good to have seen a Paizo/RPGA licence that allowed Paizo to buy the best expired RPGA adventures and publish a Living Greyhawk annual for each metaregion. Something like that could have allowed them to fold the adventures of willing authors into Paizo-hawk canon.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I said a while ago (at <a href="http://www.thepiazza.org.uk/bb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=8549#p107698" target="_blank">my thread on The Piazza</a>) that I thought this unofficial Bandit Kingdoms book falls into the same area as <em>[ame="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Slayer-Totally-Unofficial-Guide-Buffy/dp/0753505533"]Slayer: The Totally Cool Unofficial Guide to Buffy[/ame]</em>.</p><p></p><p>I stand by that remark. I think that there is a way for books like this to be legal, but I also think that there is a line and that anyone that does not do their homework should avoid getting egged on by fans that want cool stuff (and that maybe don't have an awareness of what can and can't be done). I think that this book got past the DMCA notice only because it was carefully reviewed by legal people <em>before</em> it was published. I hope to see more Living Greyhawk material come back in some form. But I wouldn't want to see someone skip the legal research and get into trouble.</p><p></p><p><strong>EDIT:</strong> Thanks for getting CreateSpace to start selling this to Amazon.co.uk!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Big Mac, post: 5915118, member: 61182"] To be honest, I'm glad they disable the ability to buy. I wouldn't want to buy a copy of your Bandit Kingdoms book, only to find out that if I waited six hours I could get one that had less typos and a better cover. Maybe I should start doing some more reviews. ;) I've got a few on Amazon.co.uk, and one over at The Piazza, but a blog might be better. I've got a friend called Megan Robertson that does reviews on a website called [URL="http://www.rpg-resource.org.uk/"]RPG Resource[/URL]. She does very good reviews and was on the panel for the ENnies recently. If you sent her a copy it would be well worth your time. I'm certainly hoping for somethihg like that, either via books, free PDFs, websites, wikis or some other medium. In fact I started writing some threads (at The Piazza's GH forum) about my fantasy LG netbooks for [URL="http://www.thepiazza.org.uk/bb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=5704"]The Sheldomar Valley[/URL], [URL="http://www.thepiazza.org.uk/bb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=5768"]Tuf-Fals-Vel Trade Route[/URL] and [URL="http://www.thepiazza.org.uk/bb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=5790"]Iuz's Border States[/URL]. I was going to do a complete set of threads, and hopefully find out the pros and cons of each region, but there was some talk of LG metaregions sometimes being a bit illogical and I got a bit discouraged with my fantasy concept. But, even if there might be a better way to organise things, I think I might take inspiration from the LG: Bandit Kingdoms book and complete my set of hypothetical books. If I'm very lucky, I might even get to meet some of the people from the LG UK Triad one day. :cool: Aha! I thought it might be a response to a peak in demand, but this makes a lot of sense. One thing that dismays me about D&D books is that they get rare and then bandits (not your sort of bandits) start trying to charge hundreds of dollars or pounds for them on eBay. I just want to (legally) get the books I'm missing and people like that annoy me. So I thought that the idea of PoD, where the book never goes out of print, would mean that it gains no "collectors" value. But if you are stopping and starting your book (to fix typos) that kind of means that you are on the second or third (or maybe even forth) printing by now. I don't know what that will (eventually) mean in the collectors market, but if someone is foolish enough to want to pay extra for the version with no message about the WotC DCMA notice withdrawal, I'll be happy for them to have that and for me to have the one with the more pretty cover. ;) Spoken like a true door-to-door Bandit Kingdom book salesman!;) I thought this was an interesting idea as soon as I heard of it, but I hope this does not mean that everyone writing for The Oerth Journal switches to selling their stuff and The Oerth Journal dries up. :eek: If things had been different, it would have been good to have seen a Paizo/RPGA licence that allowed Paizo to buy the best expired RPGA adventures and publish a Living Greyhawk annual for each metaregion. Something like that could have allowed them to fold the adventures of willing authors into Paizo-hawk canon. I said a while ago (at [URL="http://www.thepiazza.org.uk/bb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=8549#p107698"]my thread on The Piazza[/URL]) that I thought this unofficial Bandit Kingdoms book falls into the same area as [I][ame="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Slayer-Totally-Unofficial-Guide-Buffy/dp/0753505533"]Slayer: The Totally Cool Unofficial Guide to Buffy[/ame][/I]. I stand by that remark. I think that there is a way for books like this to be legal, but I also think that there is a line and that anyone that does not do their homework should avoid getting egged on by fans that want cool stuff (and that maybe don't have an awareness of what can and can't be done). I think that this book got past the DMCA notice only because it was carefully reviewed by legal people [I]before[/I] it was published. I hope to see more Living Greyhawk material come back in some form. But I wouldn't want to see someone skip the legal research and get into trouble. [B]EDIT:[/B] Thanks for getting CreateSpace to start selling this to Amazon.co.uk! [/QUOTE]
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