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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 2835296" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>You mention Undead Bane magic weapons for a rogue. That is exactly my point - you added something to them to make them be able to handle one of their weaknesses. But you don't want to discuss the options for a high level beguiler to strengthen their weaknesses. It's not like Undead Bane magic weapons are in the rogue character description...but all you have analyzed is what is in the text of the Beguiler character description.</p><p></p><p>Also, I don't think spells like Shades are weak. They WILL be used by a high level Beguiler, effectively. And with the NORMAL addition of magic items, spells, feats, abilities, and prestige class abilities, it will be even more powerful.</p><p></p><p>As for your dislike of the power level of illusionists, well that is why I like the Shadowcraft Mage, Shadowcrafter, and Shadow Adept prestige classes. They do one of the things prestige classes should do - make suboptimal choices into balanced choices. And it was mentioned earlier in the thread that people think the Shadowcraft Mage is overpowered. I do not at all agree with that. While I think any class can be abused, overall I think that particular prestige class is a very well thought out, balanced, and creative prestige class (and one I would love to play some day).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 2835296, member: 2525"] You mention Undead Bane magic weapons for a rogue. That is exactly my point - you added something to them to make them be able to handle one of their weaknesses. But you don't want to discuss the options for a high level beguiler to strengthen their weaknesses. It's not like Undead Bane magic weapons are in the rogue character description...but all you have analyzed is what is in the text of the Beguiler character description. Also, I don't think spells like Shades are weak. They WILL be used by a high level Beguiler, effectively. And with the NORMAL addition of magic items, spells, feats, abilities, and prestige class abilities, it will be even more powerful. As for your dislike of the power level of illusionists, well that is why I like the Shadowcraft Mage, Shadowcrafter, and Shadow Adept prestige classes. They do one of the things prestige classes should do - make suboptimal choices into balanced choices. And it was mentioned earlier in the thread that people think the Shadowcraft Mage is overpowered. I do not at all agree with that. While I think any class can be abused, overall I think that particular prestige class is a very well thought out, balanced, and creative prestige class (and one I would love to play some day). [/QUOTE]
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