Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
Character Builds & Optimization
Best Adventurer's League single classed gish that is a full spellcaster
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="RulesJD" data-source="post: 7113143" data-attributes="member: 6808367"><p>Taken from personal experience:</p><p></p><p>1. Top choice is V. Human Fighter 2/Abjuration Wizard 18</p><p></p><p>No other choice even comes close. <u>Action Surge</u> + <em>Simulacrum</em> + <em>Contingency</em> = you are literally your own party and don't have to rely on anyone. Infinite casting of <em>Shield</em> = always full Abjuration shield which means you'll have MORE health than an equivalent level Fighter. Full plate + shield (magical) means you have effectively much higher AC than any other build with access to the Wizard's spell list (best spell list by far).</p><p></p><p>Seriously, the build is 100% broken at top levels. The ability to combine 4 full spells in one turn, with 2 sources of concentration (you and simulacrum) just wrecks balance. <em>Haste</em> and <strong>GWM</strong> (free V.Human feat if you want) means you'll pretty reliably have 2/3 attacks per turn, especially with a Familiar providing advantage. </p><p></p><p>You have high AC, high HP (when counting Abjur Ward), fantastic saves against spells and damage, and you are the most powerful spell caster in the game (the difference between a level 18 and level 20 Wizard is nothing).</p><p></p><p>2. Second place is more nuanced. It's basically a choice between being more melee (Paladin 2/Draconic Sorc 18), or more spell casting (Cleric 2/Abjuration 18).</p><p></p><p>3. V. Human is always the best choice. Always. Free feat > all racial abilities for pure powergaming reasons.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RulesJD, post: 7113143, member: 6808367"] Taken from personal experience: 1. Top choice is V. Human Fighter 2/Abjuration Wizard 18 No other choice even comes close. [U]Action Surge[/U] + [I]Simulacrum[/I] + [I]Contingency[/I] = you are literally your own party and don't have to rely on anyone. Infinite casting of [I]Shield[/I] = always full Abjuration shield which means you'll have MORE health than an equivalent level Fighter. Full plate + shield (magical) means you have effectively much higher AC than any other build with access to the Wizard's spell list (best spell list by far). Seriously, the build is 100% broken at top levels. The ability to combine 4 full spells in one turn, with 2 sources of concentration (you and simulacrum) just wrecks balance. [I]Haste[/I] and [B]GWM[/B] (free V.Human feat if you want) means you'll pretty reliably have 2/3 attacks per turn, especially with a Familiar providing advantage. You have high AC, high HP (when counting Abjur Ward), fantastic saves against spells and damage, and you are the most powerful spell caster in the game (the difference between a level 18 and level 20 Wizard is nothing). 2. Second place is more nuanced. It's basically a choice between being more melee (Paladin 2/Draconic Sorc 18), or more spell casting (Cleric 2/Abjuration 18). 3. V. Human is always the best choice. Always. Free feat > all racial abilities for pure powergaming reasons. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
Character Builds & Optimization
Best Adventurer's League single classed gish that is a full spellcaster
Top