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<blockquote data-quote="Ultimatecalibur" data-source="post: 6010928" data-attributes="member: 59539"><p>Did you know that, in some versions of Aurthurian Myth, the various Knights of the Round Table were often as strong as (or often in Lancelot's case stronger than) the giants they fought and often won because of their superior skill at arms.</p><p></p><p>Thor regularly wrestled giants (an won) without Megingjörð(power-belt that doubles his strength) even though he was shorter than they (being only half-giant).</p><p></p><p>I have no problem with strong "mortals" besting the average ogres and giants at feats of strength because I know of all sorts of stories(new and old) where this happens. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's my point: much of it comes down to presentation and perspective. Early on in 4E's life, an employee talked about the campaign he was in where they PCs were Divine Beings/Planetary Avatars from level 1 with no changes to the rules. The DM was just describing things happening on a different scale than normal.</p><p></p><p>P.S.:Achilles was traditionally the one that is a child of a goddess(Thetis); Herakles was traditionally a child of Zeus. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ultimatecalibur, post: 6010928, member: 59539"] Did you know that, in some versions of Aurthurian Myth, the various Knights of the Round Table were often as strong as (or often in Lancelot's case stronger than) the giants they fought and often won because of their superior skill at arms. Thor regularly wrestled giants (an won) without Megingjörð(power-belt that doubles his strength) even though he was shorter than they (being only half-giant). I have no problem with strong "mortals" besting the average ogres and giants at feats of strength because I know of all sorts of stories(new and old) where this happens. That's my point: much of it comes down to presentation and perspective. Early on in 4E's life, an employee talked about the campaign he was in where they PCs were Divine Beings/Planetary Avatars from level 1 with no changes to the rules. The DM was just describing things happening on a different scale than normal. P.S.:Achilles was traditionally the one that is a child of a goddess(Thetis); Herakles was traditionally a child of Zeus. :P [/QUOTE]
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