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<blockquote data-quote="Iosue" data-source="post: 6011050" data-attributes="member: 6680772"><p>I think you misread my post. I didn't say 500 lb was too much for maximum human deadlift. I said it seemed high for <em>average</em> human deadlift. I already noted in my post that in the playtest the maximum human deadlift was 1,000 lbs, and I also made note of Magnusson's record in that regard.</p><p></p><p>I'm just saying I don't think average folks, even those who lived in medieval times, could generally deadlift 500 lbs.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As I clearly demonstrated in my post, Ogres and Giants are far stronger than even the strongest human possible. Currently as the rules stand, arm wrestling is a Strength contest, and there are no rules as yet written for what effects an increase in Creature Size might have for STR bonuses. One possibility is that the bonuses double, just as carrying capacity does. In that case, a 20 STR human would have a +5 and an 18 STR ogre would have +8, which strikes me as feasible. A large giant with 20 STR would have a bonus of +10. A Huge Storm Giant with a 25 STR would have a plus +32, meaning the fighter would never have a chance of winning. That all sounds feasible. The question is not really one of making the creatures stronger, but of fleshing out the Size rules.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Iosue, post: 6011050, member: 6680772"] I think you misread my post. I didn't say 500 lb was too much for maximum human deadlift. I said it seemed high for [i]average[/i] human deadlift. I already noted in my post that in the playtest the maximum human deadlift was 1,000 lbs, and I also made note of Magnusson's record in that regard. I'm just saying I don't think average folks, even those who lived in medieval times, could generally deadlift 500 lbs. As I clearly demonstrated in my post, Ogres and Giants are far stronger than even the strongest human possible. Currently as the rules stand, arm wrestling is a Strength contest, and there are no rules as yet written for what effects an increase in Creature Size might have for STR bonuses. One possibility is that the bonuses double, just as carrying capacity does. In that case, a 20 STR human would have a +5 and an 18 STR ogre would have +8, which strikes me as feasible. A large giant with 20 STR would have a bonus of +10. A Huge Storm Giant with a 25 STR would have a plus +32, meaning the fighter would never have a chance of winning. That all sounds feasible. The question is not really one of making the creatures stronger, but of fleshing out the Size rules. [/QUOTE]
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