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<blockquote data-quote="RainOnTheSun" data-source="post: 9303222" data-attributes="member: 7031409"><p>They're cleric-like in the way they use magic, but the key difference, for this, is that they don't need the favor or approval of a god. Nature is like the Weave of Magic(tm), or the... song-force? However 5E bards cast spells. The point is that it's there for anyone, if they approach it the right way and they have the dedication.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think it's telling that this warlock you describe is an NPC instead of a PC. "Guy who can't hack it at wizard school without a special cheat" isn't the fantasy I picture most players wanting to create with the warlock class. The characters in fiction who make pacts with otherworldly beings are frequently the closest thing their world has to a wizard before resorting to the pact - Faust's problem isn't that he isn't a good enough scholar, his problem is that <em>scholarship itself</em> isn't good enough. That doesn't fit together well with a class that says you can do just about anything if you read the right book.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RainOnTheSun, post: 9303222, member: 7031409"] They're cleric-like in the way they use magic, but the key difference, for this, is that they don't need the favor or approval of a god. Nature is like the Weave of Magic(tm), or the... song-force? However 5E bards cast spells. The point is that it's there for anyone, if they approach it the right way and they have the dedication. I think it's telling that this warlock you describe is an NPC instead of a PC. "Guy who can't hack it at wizard school without a special cheat" isn't the fantasy I picture most players wanting to create with the warlock class. The characters in fiction who make pacts with otherworldly beings are frequently the closest thing their world has to a wizard before resorting to the pact - Faust's problem isn't that he isn't a good enough scholar, his problem is that [I]scholarship itself[/I] isn't good enough. That doesn't fit together well with a class that says you can do just about anything if you read the right book. [/QUOTE]
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