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<blockquote data-quote="Imaro" data-source="post: 7350793" data-attributes="member: 48965"><p>I doubt that's the reason for our difference of opinion... I addressed your statements with counterpoints... how about you do the same? How do you define a "superhero" movie? What superhero movies do a really great job in your opinion and why? And I'm going to go out on a limb and assume these movies would have none of the flaws you called out for BP... right?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I guess if you cut out the movie's themes, it's details, it's character's motivations, etc...yes you would have a fairly conventional story... but I think that's true for any movie. Just from your statement above I feel like you perhaps missed some parts of the movie... the usurper doesn't come "out of nowhere" he's given a background and motivation that is not only intrinsically tied to Wakanda, T'challa and the royal family but serves to call into question the morality of T'Challa's father, the previous Black Panther, and his adviser as well as providing the catalyst for a crossroads where the new king T'challa has to choose between tradition and change, that choice by the end of the movie reverberates throughout Wakanda and the world in the MCU. This is a universal theme, not a black theme. Since your post seems to imply you find it hard relating to the exploration of a theme that may be/is more relevant to a different set of people (though still universal at some level).</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, I listed some of the reasons I thought the BP movie was special and memorable and even invited you to make some counter points (which you instead chose to ignore)... and for the record not a single one of them was... the cast is black. But thanks for trying to simplify the post I took the time to reply to you with in hopes of conversation in such a dismissive way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Imaro, post: 7350793, member: 48965"] I doubt that's the reason for our difference of opinion... I addressed your statements with counterpoints... how about you do the same? How do you define a "superhero" movie? What superhero movies do a really great job in your opinion and why? And I'm going to go out on a limb and assume these movies would have none of the flaws you called out for BP... right? I guess if you cut out the movie's themes, it's details, it's character's motivations, etc...yes you would have a fairly conventional story... but I think that's true for any movie. Just from your statement above I feel like you perhaps missed some parts of the movie... the usurper doesn't come "out of nowhere" he's given a background and motivation that is not only intrinsically tied to Wakanda, T'challa and the royal family but serves to call into question the morality of T'Challa's father, the previous Black Panther, and his adviser as well as providing the catalyst for a crossroads where the new king T'challa has to choose between tradition and change, that choice by the end of the movie reverberates throughout Wakanda and the world in the MCU. This is a universal theme, not a black theme. Since your post seems to imply you find it hard relating to the exploration of a theme that may be/is more relevant to a different set of people (though still universal at some level). No, I listed some of the reasons I thought the BP movie was special and memorable and even invited you to make some counter points (which you instead chose to ignore)... and for the record not a single one of them was... the cast is black. But thanks for trying to simplify the post I took the time to reply to you with in hopes of conversation in such a dismissive way. [/QUOTE]
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