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<blockquote data-quote="Retreater" data-source="post: 8707702" data-attributes="member: 42040"><p>I thought this might be relevant to post here, not to slam on the company or to complain about my experience. It's more of a lesson learned for me, and I know some of you on this board like talking about the hobby industry.</p><p>I love collecting and painting miniatures - even if I don't get to have in-person gaming as much as I used to. So I placed the base pledge of $65 for Blacklist Miniatures "Fantasy Set 1," which was going to be for 70 miniatures - which I thought was quite the deal. The Kickstarter had a $45,000 goal, but more and more stretch goals were added until it ended with over 200 miniatures for my initial pledge of $65. What started as a good deal was beginning to look too good to be true. The Kickstarter raised over $1M and was set to be delivered on Dec 2020. </p><p>I had already pledged for the Altar Quest board game set and was quite pleased with the miniatures once I received it. I didn't overly care for the game - but minis are minis, I thought. When another Horror miniatures Kickstarter was announced with over 100 miniatures for $70 (to be delivered in Nov 2021), I back that too. Also, I didn't blink at a $109 pledge for their Fantasy Set 2 with a skirmish wargame rulebook and over 200 miniatures (with a plan to be delivered on May 2022). </p><p>Backers began getting some warnings that production was being delayed. The models' being manufactured in China during COVID caused some issues, but eventually Fantasy Sets 1 began shipping out - just not to where I live (North America). Once warehoused in North America, the sets got stuck. For months Blacklist couldn't pay to get them shipped and couldn't sell additional products because they still owed the warehouses. </p><p>Last night (at 11:30 pm my time), I received an email from Blacklist asking me to support their GoFundMe Page, needing over $300K to move the products and pay their warehouse bills. The different tiers of support promised credit on future Kickstarter projects and other rewards. By this morning, apparently that GoFundMe Page had been reported and taken down.</p><p>Looking at the financials finally released with the GoFundMe Request email, it was pretty clear that they mishandled the Blacklist Fantasy Set 1 Kickstarter. Too many stretch goals inflated the cost of printing the project to close to $1M - so the company actually lost money when accounting for advertising, design work, and shipping. They said that this Kickstarter was designed to get exposure for their company - not to make a profit - and I think they certainly succeeded in that. </p><p>I hope that they find a way to get the completed Fantasy Set 1 boxes to their thousands of backers , but I don't have much faith in seeing the other products. </p><p>Did anyone else here back this project? Are you planning to donate if they ask for shipping help? In your opinion, is this the biggest TTRPG-related Kickstarter failure?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Retreater, post: 8707702, member: 42040"] I thought this might be relevant to post here, not to slam on the company or to complain about my experience. It's more of a lesson learned for me, and I know some of you on this board like talking about the hobby industry. I love collecting and painting miniatures - even if I don't get to have in-person gaming as much as I used to. So I placed the base pledge of $65 for Blacklist Miniatures "Fantasy Set 1," which was going to be for 70 miniatures - which I thought was quite the deal. The Kickstarter had a $45,000 goal, but more and more stretch goals were added until it ended with over 200 miniatures for my initial pledge of $65. What started as a good deal was beginning to look too good to be true. The Kickstarter raised over $1M and was set to be delivered on Dec 2020. I had already pledged for the Altar Quest board game set and was quite pleased with the miniatures once I received it. I didn't overly care for the game - but minis are minis, I thought. When another Horror miniatures Kickstarter was announced with over 100 miniatures for $70 (to be delivered in Nov 2021), I back that too. Also, I didn't blink at a $109 pledge for their Fantasy Set 2 with a skirmish wargame rulebook and over 200 miniatures (with a plan to be delivered on May 2022). Backers began getting some warnings that production was being delayed. The models' being manufactured in China during COVID caused some issues, but eventually Fantasy Sets 1 began shipping out - just not to where I live (North America). Once warehoused in North America, the sets got stuck. For months Blacklist couldn't pay to get them shipped and couldn't sell additional products because they still owed the warehouses. Last night (at 11:30 pm my time), I received an email from Blacklist asking me to support their GoFundMe Page, needing over $300K to move the products and pay their warehouse bills. The different tiers of support promised credit on future Kickstarter projects and other rewards. By this morning, apparently that GoFundMe Page had been reported and taken down. Looking at the financials finally released with the GoFundMe Request email, it was pretty clear that they mishandled the Blacklist Fantasy Set 1 Kickstarter. Too many stretch goals inflated the cost of printing the project to close to $1M - so the company actually lost money when accounting for advertising, design work, and shipping. They said that this Kickstarter was designed to get exposure for their company - not to make a profit - and I think they certainly succeeded in that. I hope that they find a way to get the completed Fantasy Set 1 boxes to their thousands of backers , but I don't have much faith in seeing the other products. Did anyone else here back this project? Are you planning to donate if they ask for shipping help? In your opinion, is this the biggest TTRPG-related Kickstarter failure? [/QUOTE]
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