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<blockquote data-quote="rbstr" data-source="post: 7109425" data-attributes="member: 6881191"><p>So, like, I'm a fan of fighter1/WarlockX since I like stabbing to be my primary thing. But I honestly don't find the blade pact to be bad on its own unless you're trying to make the bladelock be an arcane half-caster. It isn't a half-caster. It's a full caster and far more comparable to bladesinger or valor bard (but with the important caveat that the blade boon is <em>not an archetype</em>).</p><p></p><p>Given that, extra attack as an invocation is in some ways a benefit compared to both Bladesinger and Valor Bard. The bladelock gives up less to get extra attack (and get it at a level earlier) than those other two: Warlocks still get their level 6 patron feature. They still get <em>all</em> of their patron features since the Pact Boon isn't an archetype! That's why the melee option for warlocks gets a bit less in the way of archetype-specific support: it isn't an archetype. It's a far more minor option than the archetype choice.</p><p></p><p>Looking at each Boon option and invocation (or two) you're basically trading casting versatility (tome - not a lot of combat impact IMO) or familiar shenanigans (decent general combat impact...though free hold monster is pretty great sometimes) for being decent at stabbing people. These options don't really even have that much to do with the basic functionality of the class!</p><p>Thinking the blade pact transforms the warlock into a half-martial is kinda like thinking the chain pact makes you into a beast master.</p><p></p><p>The real mistake in all this is that they didn't have a Warlock <em>archetype</em> that was actually melee-centric. Thus you have the hexblade UA now.</p><p></p><p>Even then, though, I don't find pure Bladelock of any current patron to be bad if you want to mostly stab stuff. Plenty of non-concentration magic to be done (mirror image, armor of agathys ect.), plenty of THPs, and, as long as you're not playing against type with strength weapons, their AC is fine in light or mage armor. With DEX they're no more MAD than any half-caster out there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rbstr, post: 7109425, member: 6881191"] So, like, I'm a fan of fighter1/WarlockX since I like stabbing to be my primary thing. But I honestly don't find the blade pact to be bad on its own unless you're trying to make the bladelock be an arcane half-caster. It isn't a half-caster. It's a full caster and far more comparable to bladesinger or valor bard (but with the important caveat that the blade boon is [I]not an archetype[/I]). Given that, extra attack as an invocation is in some ways a benefit compared to both Bladesinger and Valor Bard. The bladelock gives up less to get extra attack (and get it at a level earlier) than those other two: Warlocks still get their level 6 patron feature. They still get [I]all[/I] of their patron features since the Pact Boon isn't an archetype! That's why the melee option for warlocks gets a bit less in the way of archetype-specific support: it isn't an archetype. It's a far more minor option than the archetype choice. Looking at each Boon option and invocation (or two) you're basically trading casting versatility (tome - not a lot of combat impact IMO) or familiar shenanigans (decent general combat impact...though free hold monster is pretty great sometimes) for being decent at stabbing people. These options don't really even have that much to do with the basic functionality of the class! Thinking the blade pact transforms the warlock into a half-martial is kinda like thinking the chain pact makes you into a beast master. The real mistake in all this is that they didn't have a Warlock [I]archetype[/I] that was actually melee-centric. Thus you have the hexblade UA now. Even then, though, I don't find pure Bladelock of any current patron to be bad if you want to mostly stab stuff. Plenty of non-concentration magic to be done (mirror image, armor of agathys ect.), plenty of THPs, and, as long as you're not playing against type with strength weapons, their AC is fine in light or mage armor. With DEX they're no more MAD than any half-caster out there. [/QUOTE]
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