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<blockquote data-quote="DwynnsPlace" data-source="post: 7248309" data-attributes="member: 6912695"><p>Wait lol ............ What was that rule about dodge? How many can he dodge? Ow wait....Something about full dodge and number of actions or attacks remaining.... Can I sing and dodge and attack....wait..... can I cast spells now as I am in the middle of all this distracting Melee and the hits I am shedding with my AC is that distracting? Are all my actions suffering disadvantage due to number of enemy attacks coming at me? Is my party sitting back toasting me and cheering me on as I dance the black spiral dancers final dance of doom? What next will befall this dancing Gypsy of a Bladesinger? </p><p></p><p>No the Bladesinger is not the problem, it has too many issues and should never be a main "Tank" </p><p>BS just is not designed for that. The problem is the DM/GM needs to evaluate the players characters </p><p>and before games start have designed challenging scenarios that can make the BS fun to play and </p><p>teach the BS player that, while the sub-class is fun and a great party support, it is not in no means </p><p>a "Tank" and should never be played as one save in solo games. I cringe at that Idea, as a DM and as a Player.</p><p> </p><p>The Bladesinger sub-class is known to be a "rules lawyer" choice and players who like to "rules lawyer" tend to </p><p>be confrontational and can usually interrupt games and cause other players to mis-out on some fun gaming time. </p><p></p><p>As anyone can see from all the posting on this, the Bladesinger subclass is a great support character and can be </p><p>great fun to play. It does represent some creative challenges for new/beginning DMs. If you are a new DM or beginner </p><p>DM with a little experience, take time to know the players characters before the game starts. </p><p></p><p>If a DM can identify and understand his lack of knowledge in a class or subclass, then he or she can elect not to allow</p><p>the varient class to play untill the GM/DM is fully knowledgeable on that Sub-class, Kit, or Class. </p><p></p><p>All the possible variations of actions by an opposing enemy can not be determined by a group of players as the DM's screen</p><p>can help you as you roll or not roll the dice behind it. (Hint-Hint)</p><p></p><p>We are beating a dead horse here.</p><p>~DWYNN~</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DwynnsPlace, post: 7248309, member: 6912695"] Wait lol ............ What was that rule about dodge? How many can he dodge? Ow wait....Something about full dodge and number of actions or attacks remaining.... Can I sing and dodge and attack....wait..... can I cast spells now as I am in the middle of all this distracting Melee and the hits I am shedding with my AC is that distracting? Are all my actions suffering disadvantage due to number of enemy attacks coming at me? Is my party sitting back toasting me and cheering me on as I dance the black spiral dancers final dance of doom? What next will befall this dancing Gypsy of a Bladesinger? No the Bladesinger is not the problem, it has too many issues and should never be a main "Tank" BS just is not designed for that. The problem is the DM/GM needs to evaluate the players characters and before games start have designed challenging scenarios that can make the BS fun to play and teach the BS player that, while the sub-class is fun and a great party support, it is not in no means a "Tank" and should never be played as one save in solo games. I cringe at that Idea, as a DM and as a Player. The Bladesinger sub-class is known to be a "rules lawyer" choice and players who like to "rules lawyer" tend to be confrontational and can usually interrupt games and cause other players to mis-out on some fun gaming time. As anyone can see from all the posting on this, the Bladesinger subclass is a great support character and can be great fun to play. It does represent some creative challenges for new/beginning DMs. If you are a new DM or beginner DM with a little experience, take time to know the players characters before the game starts. If a DM can identify and understand his lack of knowledge in a class or subclass, then he or she can elect not to allow the varient class to play untill the GM/DM is fully knowledgeable on that Sub-class, Kit, or Class. All the possible variations of actions by an opposing enemy can not be determined by a group of players as the DM's screen can help you as you roll or not roll the dice behind it. (Hint-Hint) We are beating a dead horse here. ~DWYNN~ [/QUOTE]
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