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<blockquote data-quote="smbakeresq" data-source="post: 7519577" data-attributes="member: 28301"><p>I think the bigger issue with wizards is that within each level there are spells that are just terrible and others that are just great and must haves. It makes all wizards sort of the same. Even spells that seem the same are far apart.</p><p></p><p>Look at Conjure Minor Elementals compared to summon greater demon. It would seem they are similar but different in choice of creature. It’s not close. Summon Demon is far stronger choice of better creature and takes 1 action as opposed to 1 minute to cast. Yes the creature gets a save, but even if it makes the save and breaks free it still sticks around and causes mayhem. </p><p></p><p>I get the elementals are friendly, but the power level between creatures isn’t close, and the casting time difference is an absolute killer.</p><p></p><p>Then of course Polymorph just towers over all other 4th level spells. </p><p></p><p>This is just an example, but throughout the spell lists there are just spells that are never taken. The real spell list for wizards (and all other spellcasters) is about half of the list of spells in the books.</p><p></p><p></p><p>There should be an employee that goes through the spell lists and revises then to make more viable choices at the various levels.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smbakeresq, post: 7519577, member: 28301"] I think the bigger issue with wizards is that within each level there are spells that are just terrible and others that are just great and must haves. It makes all wizards sort of the same. Even spells that seem the same are far apart. Look at Conjure Minor Elementals compared to summon greater demon. It would seem they are similar but different in choice of creature. It’s not close. Summon Demon is far stronger choice of better creature and takes 1 action as opposed to 1 minute to cast. Yes the creature gets a save, but even if it makes the save and breaks free it still sticks around and causes mayhem. I get the elementals are friendly, but the power level between creatures isn’t close, and the casting time difference is an absolute killer. Then of course Polymorph just towers over all other 4th level spells. This is just an example, but throughout the spell lists there are just spells that are never taken. The real spell list for wizards (and all other spellcasters) is about half of the list of spells in the books. There should be an employee that goes through the spell lists and revises then to make more viable choices at the various levels. [/QUOTE]
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