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<blockquote data-quote="Cadence" data-source="post: 8743501" data-attributes="member: 6701124"><p>tldr; The previous post was because I was offended and feeling snarky. It didn't help anything, but I felt the urge to post something and did not choose the better part of valor. Read the below a few times and I'm not sure it's helpful, but it's seems better than the last few. In any case I'm dropping it now and will avoid further comment on it.</p><p></p><p>----</p><p></p><p>Which other side?</p><p> </p><p>The one that wants old fashioned ASIs for physical and mental stats and doesn't care about how that feels anywhere from icky at the edges to calling up awful racist thoughts? The one that says it's racist thinking to think that physical capabilities are related to physical size but fine that fantasy races often have vastly different sizes? The one that wants mental stats to not vary because that feels exceptionally problematic, and doesn't feel its worth dealing with small physical size differences for physical ones? The one that agrees that a two point ASI doesn't capture much but might like something bigger or caps based on size to be considered for the physical ones? The one that thinks any story of the gods creating races at all in a fantasy story is bad? The one that thinks the gods granting something like luck or perception or some types of languages to their creation is fine, but that granting other languages and any trained skill is bad? The one that's fine with the gods granting anything is fine? The one that wonders why "resourceful, skillful, and versatile" aren't listed among the problematic things too and wants them out? The one that loves all the mixing and matching of different humanoid kinds the way they propose it? The one that finds it really odd that the children of the different kinds of humanoid are just a reskin of one parent or the other? The one that asks why all of those labeled as different types aren't really all one type and so we should do in the concept of race and lineage all together for the reason of allowing creativity? Ditto, but for the sake of avoiding icky parallels to miscegenation laws?</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I think I'm vaguely well read on the issue. Which is apparently not a preventative for being cheesed off and posting when you shouldn't.</p><p></p><p>And I'll certainly take getting rid of the physical ASIs since I agree they don't do enough to address anyone's concerns about verisimilitude and because their current implementation raises questions that quickly get to things that get to things well hashed over that shouldn't be gotten to. And I am ecstatic that the mental ASIs are gone. And I am certainly not going to avoid the new edition or make elaborate house rules for it because I'm mad someone's halfling gets to be as strong as my would be paragon of strength orc or whatnot.</p><p></p><p>But I'm pretty sure I was offended to be told I'm engaged in racist thinking for preferring that strength and maybe dexterity is somewhat related to size (height? build?) . Maybe individual size category and a more fitness stat?</p><p></p><p>So anyway, I'll try to ignore it from now on and certainly avoid the unhelpful snark about it. <deletes several sentences below that wouldn't be helpful>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cadence, post: 8743501, member: 6701124"] tldr; The previous post was because I was offended and feeling snarky. It didn't help anything, but I felt the urge to post something and did not choose the better part of valor. Read the below a few times and I'm not sure it's helpful, but it's seems better than the last few. In any case I'm dropping it now and will avoid further comment on it. ---- Which other side? The one that wants old fashioned ASIs for physical and mental stats and doesn't care about how that feels anywhere from icky at the edges to calling up awful racist thoughts? The one that says it's racist thinking to think that physical capabilities are related to physical size but fine that fantasy races often have vastly different sizes? The one that wants mental stats to not vary because that feels exceptionally problematic, and doesn't feel its worth dealing with small physical size differences for physical ones? The one that agrees that a two point ASI doesn't capture much but might like something bigger or caps based on size to be considered for the physical ones? The one that thinks any story of the gods creating races at all in a fantasy story is bad? The one that thinks the gods granting something like luck or perception or some types of languages to their creation is fine, but that granting other languages and any trained skill is bad? The one that's fine with the gods granting anything is fine? The one that wonders why "resourceful, skillful, and versatile" aren't listed among the problematic things too and wants them out? The one that loves all the mixing and matching of different humanoid kinds the way they propose it? The one that finds it really odd that the children of the different kinds of humanoid are just a reskin of one parent or the other? The one that asks why all of those labeled as different types aren't really all one type and so we should do in the concept of race and lineage all together for the reason of allowing creativity? Ditto, but for the sake of avoiding icky parallels to miscegenation laws? Anyway, I think I'm vaguely well read on the issue. Which is apparently not a preventative for being cheesed off and posting when you shouldn't. And I'll certainly take getting rid of the physical ASIs since I agree they don't do enough to address anyone's concerns about verisimilitude and because their current implementation raises questions that quickly get to things that get to things well hashed over that shouldn't be gotten to. And I am ecstatic that the mental ASIs are gone. And I am certainly not going to avoid the new edition or make elaborate house rules for it because I'm mad someone's halfling gets to be as strong as my would be paragon of strength orc or whatnot. But I'm pretty sure I was offended to be told I'm engaged in racist thinking for preferring that strength and maybe dexterity is somewhat related to size (height? build?) . Maybe individual size category and a more fitness stat? So anyway, I'll try to ignore it from now on and certainly avoid the unhelpful snark about it. <deletes several sentences below that wouldn't be helpful>. [/QUOTE]
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