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<blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 1838820" data-attributes="member: 5890"><p>I'm sorry. I'm trying right now to express how I would feel as a player if the DM told me that executing a foe when there are extenuating circumstances immediately made my character evil.</p><p></p><p>I can't. I really can't. I suppose I could say that you were being a bad DM. Does that help any?</p><p></p><p>No, you've NOT done what I seriously doubt. Read it carefully.</p><p></p><p>I said </p><p>"bumped his alignment immediately to good for risking his life for another member of the party."</p><p></p><p>Another member of the party. Someone who has willingly exposed himself to risk. Someone who would most likely do the same for you.</p><p></p><p>If the child in question was an innocent, with no ties to the party member, and the demon was giving some serious trouble, then great! Good alignment shift.</p><p></p><p>If the child in question was the guy's son - maybe not.</p><p>If the child in question would guarantee the destruction of the world and everything on it if he's not saved from the demon - certainly not.</p><p></p><p>If the child in question was a foe, certainly.</p><p></p><p>If the child in question was a useful ally, probably not.</p><p></p><p>This transfers across to the other end of the spectrum.</p><p></p><p>Kill a foe? No shift.</p><p></p><p>Kill a helpless foe? Most likely no shift</p><p>Kill a foe who, though currently helpless, will be a serious threat if released? No shift.</p><p></p><p>Kill a helpless innocent because doing so saves the world? Probably no shift.</p><p></p><p>Kill a helpless innocent for fun? Straight to evil.</p><p></p><p>Finally - note that in every evil incident above which has "probably no shift", that means that your exalted status is gone, gone, gone.</p><p></p><p>Which makes it a chaotic act, not a more evil act. Did you make the PC chaotic too?</p><p></p><p>A prisoner who is a fighting man himself, who was willing to risk his own life to take away yours. And the alternative to killing him is to risk your own life. It comes really, really close to being self-defense. Far too close for me to justify an alignment shift off of a single incident.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Saeviomagy, post: 1838820, member: 5890"] I'm sorry. I'm trying right now to express how I would feel as a player if the DM told me that executing a foe when there are extenuating circumstances immediately made my character evil. I can't. I really can't. I suppose I could say that you were being a bad DM. Does that help any? No, you've NOT done what I seriously doubt. Read it carefully. I said "bumped his alignment immediately to good for risking his life for another member of the party." Another member of the party. Someone who has willingly exposed himself to risk. Someone who would most likely do the same for you. If the child in question was an innocent, with no ties to the party member, and the demon was giving some serious trouble, then great! Good alignment shift. If the child in question was the guy's son - maybe not. If the child in question would guarantee the destruction of the world and everything on it if he's not saved from the demon - certainly not. If the child in question was a foe, certainly. If the child in question was a useful ally, probably not. This transfers across to the other end of the spectrum. Kill a foe? No shift. Kill a helpless foe? Most likely no shift Kill a foe who, though currently helpless, will be a serious threat if released? No shift. Kill a helpless innocent because doing so saves the world? Probably no shift. Kill a helpless innocent for fun? Straight to evil. Finally - note that in every evil incident above which has "probably no shift", that means that your exalted status is gone, gone, gone. Which makes it a chaotic act, not a more evil act. Did you make the PC chaotic too? A prisoner who is a fighting man himself, who was willing to risk his own life to take away yours. And the alternative to killing him is to risk your own life. It comes really, really close to being self-defense. Far too close for me to justify an alignment shift off of a single incident. [/QUOTE]
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