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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9320440" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>I might have overlooked it, but I'm surprised that it doesn't seem to have come up given the number of times it's been suggested that sorcerer be con based or that they gain notable monster abilities and such that would presumably contribute significantly to the class's power budget. There is no reason that sorcerer with those kinds of things still needs so much of the wizard spell list or the same spell level/slot progression as a wizard. A fractional con based d4 hit diel caster with a strictly limited∆ spell list who gains a significant chunk of its power from it's monstrous adaptations makes a lot more sense than piling features on top of a wizard chassis.</p><p></p><p>∆ basically all of the A B & S tier spells from the wizard list is not "limited"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 9320440, member: 93670"] I might have overlooked it, but I'm surprised that it doesn't seem to have come up given the number of times it's been suggested that sorcerer be con based or that they gain notable monster abilities and such that would presumably contribute significantly to the class's power budget. There is no reason that sorcerer with those kinds of things still needs so much of the wizard spell list or the same spell level/slot progression as a wizard. A fractional con based d4 hit diel caster with a strictly limited∆ spell list who gains a significant chunk of its power from it's monstrous adaptations makes a lot more sense than piling features on top of a wizard chassis. ∆ basically all of the A B & S tier spells from the wizard list is not "limited" [/QUOTE]
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