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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 7174341" data-attributes="member: 15700"><p>Getting a style or a feat that adds a bonus to hit and/or damage will increase DPR. That's basic math. Also, the goal of the champion is not just "less moving parts", it's "less parts in general."</p><p></p><p>Secondly, I must point out that the fighter existed for 25 years before 3e ever came out, so no, my argument is not moot. 3e is not the only "old edition". Heck, I don't consider it old at all because it's post TSR era, which IMO makes it very much NOT old. The 5e champion fighter was very much inspired by the AD&D basic fighter because that's what people asked for, and that's what Mearls said it was for.</p><p></p><p>*Edit* Also, a fighter with GWM will not make every single attack ever with their GW. Sometimes they will need to make something like a ranged attack, or attack with a different weapon. So if a fighter is doing 20 DPR with GWM and 8 DPR with ranged attacks, and you're giving them free styles and feats that bring ranged DPR up to 20 as well, then that increases their overall DPR in total.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 7174341, member: 15700"] Getting a style or a feat that adds a bonus to hit and/or damage will increase DPR. That's basic math. Also, the goal of the champion is not just "less moving parts", it's "less parts in general." Secondly, I must point out that the fighter existed for 25 years before 3e ever came out, so no, my argument is not moot. 3e is not the only "old edition". Heck, I don't consider it old at all because it's post TSR era, which IMO makes it very much NOT old. The 5e champion fighter was very much inspired by the AD&D basic fighter because that's what people asked for, and that's what Mearls said it was for. *Edit* Also, a fighter with GWM will not make every single attack ever with their GW. Sometimes they will need to make something like a ranged attack, or attack with a different weapon. So if a fighter is doing 20 DPR with GWM and 8 DPR with ranged attacks, and you're giving them free styles and feats that bring ranged DPR up to 20 as well, then that increases their overall DPR in total. [/QUOTE]
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