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<blockquote data-quote="Gaiden" data-source="post: 215142" data-attributes="member: 103"><p>I have to give the sage alot of credit as he typically rules in a very balanced fashion and makes alot of sense. However, I would clarify a distinction in the way the sage comments on rules. One is referencing one clarification with other preexisting rules. The other is deciding on an issue that is perfectly ambiguous or even worse is in fact the opposite of the sage's ruling. As I said, as far as I can tell anyway, these rulings are in the name of game balance and I imagine that is the reason for limiting hamstring. However, now having looked over the feat, there is absolutely no reason absent the sage's ruling to prevent multiple uses of this feat. I do not mean to criticize the ruling for hamstring, I merely am asking an innocent question (ok enough of the politicking - here goes).</p><p></p><p>First, has anyone played where the hamstring can multiplicatively stack, or at least that you can hamstring both legs instead of just one (or in the case of a multilegged creature, hamstring each of their legs)? This in fact raises another question which would be, if hamstring works by disabling one leg, then if both were disabled, does the character's movement goto 0 (or something where it would be equivalent to a collapsed person crawling only with the use of his/her arms)?</p><p></p><p>Would the hamstring feat be too powerful if you did allow it to multiplicatively stack - i.e. 1/2 to 1/4 to 1/8 to 1/16, etc. I would imagine it would definitely be too powerful with what I just mentioned above where # of hamstrings = to number of legs means movement 0. Moreover, if anyone has played with the stacking, do they require seperate attacks for each application of hamstring, or can you simply reduce the amount of SA dmg by 2d6 for each application.</p><p></p><p>Actually this whole thread has raised two other questions - what is the difference between sage rulings and official errata?</p><p></p><p>The other is what if something is so small that its base movement is less than 5' - then does it get to take a free 5' step.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gaiden, post: 215142, member: 103"] I have to give the sage alot of credit as he typically rules in a very balanced fashion and makes alot of sense. However, I would clarify a distinction in the way the sage comments on rules. One is referencing one clarification with other preexisting rules. The other is deciding on an issue that is perfectly ambiguous or even worse is in fact the opposite of the sage's ruling. As I said, as far as I can tell anyway, these rulings are in the name of game balance and I imagine that is the reason for limiting hamstring. However, now having looked over the feat, there is absolutely no reason absent the sage's ruling to prevent multiple uses of this feat. I do not mean to criticize the ruling for hamstring, I merely am asking an innocent question (ok enough of the politicking - here goes). First, has anyone played where the hamstring can multiplicatively stack, or at least that you can hamstring both legs instead of just one (or in the case of a multilegged creature, hamstring each of their legs)? This in fact raises another question which would be, if hamstring works by disabling one leg, then if both were disabled, does the character's movement goto 0 (or something where it would be equivalent to a collapsed person crawling only with the use of his/her arms)? Would the hamstring feat be too powerful if you did allow it to multiplicatively stack - i.e. 1/2 to 1/4 to 1/8 to 1/16, etc. I would imagine it would definitely be too powerful with what I just mentioned above where # of hamstrings = to number of legs means movement 0. Moreover, if anyone has played with the stacking, do they require seperate attacks for each application of hamstring, or can you simply reduce the amount of SA dmg by 2d6 for each application. Actually this whole thread has raised two other questions - what is the difference between sage rulings and official errata? The other is what if something is so small that its base movement is less than 5' - then does it get to take a free 5' step. [/QUOTE]
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