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Can a hasted bladesinger cast a cantrip with the haste extra action
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<blockquote data-quote="NotAYakk" data-source="post: 8283969" data-attributes="member: 72555"><p>To be clear, they are having bad wrong fun?</p><p></p><p>"Exploits" is a loaded word.</p><p></p><p>Is it an exploit because the effect is stronger?</p><p></p><p>If someone uses their trident to grapple someone with a hasted action, is that an exploit? Or shoves someone?</p><p></p><p>---</p><p></p><p>It really is an "ask your DM" situation. And a DM who knee-jerk answers "no" to every such question is one who considers players to be cheaters, which is a pretty crappy way to treat your fellow players.</p><p></p><p>---</p><p></p><p>In my opinion, I would make it depend on the current state of inter party balance. If the bladesinger is outshining everyone, then no, haste doesn't let you cast a cantrip. If the bladesinger is being clearly outshone, then sure, haste lets you cast a cantrip.</p><p></p><p>Both are reasonable wordings. In fact, if I found the bladesinger was being outshone badly, I would <strong>suggest</strong> that to the bladesinger as a DM.</p><p></p><p>And the extra few-d8-damage you get from this technique isn't all that huge.</p><p></p><p>If someone went and made a Hex 2/BS 6/Sorc 3/X 6 EB 12 times and make an attack every round, it would be a special game where someone doing that build was being outshone so much it needs this ruling. (I hereby dub that build Machine Gun Kelly)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NotAYakk, post: 8283969, member: 72555"] To be clear, they are having bad wrong fun? "Exploits" is a loaded word. Is it an exploit because the effect is stronger? If someone uses their trident to grapple someone with a hasted action, is that an exploit? Or shoves someone? --- It really is an "ask your DM" situation. And a DM who knee-jerk answers "no" to every such question is one who considers players to be cheaters, which is a pretty crappy way to treat your fellow players. --- In my opinion, I would make it depend on the current state of inter party balance. If the bladesinger is outshining everyone, then no, haste doesn't let you cast a cantrip. If the bladesinger is being clearly outshone, then sure, haste lets you cast a cantrip. Both are reasonable wordings. In fact, if I found the bladesinger was being outshone badly, I would [B]suggest[/B] that to the bladesinger as a DM. And the extra few-d8-damage you get from this technique isn't all that huge. If someone went and made a Hex 2/BS 6/Sorc 3/X 6 EB 12 times and make an attack every round, it would be a special game where someone doing that build was being outshone so much it needs this ruling. (I hereby dub that build Machine Gun Kelly) [/QUOTE]
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