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<blockquote data-quote="Jack Simth" data-source="post: 2962022" data-attributes="member: 29252"><p>Yeah.... but then, compare, say, Scrying to Greater Scrying - you go from an hour-long casting time with an expensive (for most classes) focus for a minute/level effect to a standard action casting time with just V, S components (no more expensive focus) for an hour/level effect in 2 (for the Cleric, who gets Scrying as a 4th, rather than 3rd, level spell) or 3 (for everyone else) spell levels. A very big jump in ease of use and utility, as well as a reduction in expense. In no way is Scrying superior to Greater Scrying, other than things directly tied to the fact that it's a lower-level spell (which also reduces the save DC). </p><p></p><p>Greater Planar Binding, on the other hand, has a nifty that Gate doesn't - it can actually be used to compel unique creatures. Sure, it's resistable, takes longer to cast, has some interesting drawbacks, .... but it's also a lower-level spell, and has potentially no mechanical cost for things like, oh, getting a few decent guardians for your castle for the next week while you go adventuring. The calling function of Gate, on the other hand, always costs XP, and if you're looking for protracted service (contract clause) definately costs you something (excepting the cases of highly aligned tasks to the Called critter), but gets you an immediate ally when needed, and has a much higher hit die limit. Hmm... okay, the two spells aren't really close enough for a ready comparison. Oh well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jack Simth, post: 2962022, member: 29252"] Yeah.... but then, compare, say, Scrying to Greater Scrying - you go from an hour-long casting time with an expensive (for most classes) focus for a minute/level effect to a standard action casting time with just V, S components (no more expensive focus) for an hour/level effect in 2 (for the Cleric, who gets Scrying as a 4th, rather than 3rd, level spell) or 3 (for everyone else) spell levels. A very big jump in ease of use and utility, as well as a reduction in expense. In no way is Scrying superior to Greater Scrying, other than things directly tied to the fact that it's a lower-level spell (which also reduces the save DC). Greater Planar Binding, on the other hand, has a nifty that Gate doesn't - it can actually be used to compel unique creatures. Sure, it's resistable, takes longer to cast, has some interesting drawbacks, .... but it's also a lower-level spell, and has potentially no mechanical cost for things like, oh, getting a few decent guardians for your castle for the next week while you go adventuring. The calling function of Gate, on the other hand, always costs XP, and if you're looking for protracted service (contract clause) definately costs you something (excepting the cases of highly aligned tasks to the Called critter), but gets you an immediate ally when needed, and has a much higher hit die limit. Hmm... okay, the two spells aren't really close enough for a ready comparison. Oh well. [/QUOTE]
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