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Can the Bard out-Ranger a Ranger?
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<blockquote data-quote="Kithas" data-source="post: 6861823" data-attributes="member: 97587"><p>I was bringing up divine favor because that style of spell is much better on rangers, and for a 1 level dip in war cleric you can have it plus some nice cantrips <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p>As far as con, if you aren't boosting con "that far" you shouldn't be in melee. That's the long and short of it, with a decent con score (3-5) plus your prof (2-6) you should have a pretty good chance to pass a dc10 check. With a +3 con at level 5 you have a +6 to your concentration checks, you need a 4 or better to pass most of them, 85% is plenty good imo, once you get a +8 or higher your chance to fail on a routine hit go to around 0%(you can't crit miss on saves) so no it isn't a problem to make concentration checks unless you are trying to make a glass cannon which is a bad idea in the first place. Anyone who is expecting to be in melee needs to be somewhat tough, I don't care how much damage you can do per round, you do 0 when you're on the floor.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kithas, post: 6861823, member: 97587"] I was bringing up divine favor because that style of spell is much better on rangers, and for a 1 level dip in war cleric you can have it plus some nice cantrips ;) As far as con, if you aren't boosting con "that far" you shouldn't be in melee. That's the long and short of it, with a decent con score (3-5) plus your prof (2-6) you should have a pretty good chance to pass a dc10 check. With a +3 con at level 5 you have a +6 to your concentration checks, you need a 4 or better to pass most of them, 85% is plenty good imo, once you get a +8 or higher your chance to fail on a routine hit go to around 0%(you can't crit miss on saves) so no it isn't a problem to make concentration checks unless you are trying to make a glass cannon which is a bad idea in the first place. Anyone who is expecting to be in melee needs to be somewhat tough, I don't care how much damage you can do per round, you do 0 when you're on the floor. [/QUOTE]
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