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<blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 7165119" data-attributes="member: 5890"><p>Observation of a few baseline creatures (elk vs giant elk, bat vs giant bat, horse vs rhino vs elephant, pseudodragon vs various dragon sizes) doesn't suggest there's any inverse relationship between size and AC. They all have some modicum of natural armor plus their dex mod.</p><p></p><p>So no, the AC of a dragon is not taking it's size into account at all. The only contributors are how quickly a target can move (ie - it's dex) and how thick it's armor is (ie - the remaining armor bonus).</p><p></p><p>Now in 3e, there was an ac modifier that scaled with size, so you could make the case that targeting a man-sized part of a huge creature would warrant a +2 ac bonus in that edition. But it's not the case in 5e.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You're the one saying "this is a good general rule for cover from water or concealment from darkness, regardless of circumstance". I'm saying "this is a ruling specific to the situation, and for most situations a DM should make up something else, because this rule is particularly harsh".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Saeviomagy, post: 7165119, member: 5890"] Observation of a few baseline creatures (elk vs giant elk, bat vs giant bat, horse vs rhino vs elephant, pseudodragon vs various dragon sizes) doesn't suggest there's any inverse relationship between size and AC. They all have some modicum of natural armor plus their dex mod. So no, the AC of a dragon is not taking it's size into account at all. The only contributors are how quickly a target can move (ie - it's dex) and how thick it's armor is (ie - the remaining armor bonus). Now in 3e, there was an ac modifier that scaled with size, so you could make the case that targeting a man-sized part of a huge creature would warrant a +2 ac bonus in that edition. But it's not the case in 5e. You're the one saying "this is a good general rule for cover from water or concealment from darkness, regardless of circumstance". I'm saying "this is a ruling specific to the situation, and for most situations a DM should make up something else, because this rule is particularly harsh". [/QUOTE]
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