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Can you cast flame blade and then make an improvised weapon attack with the flame blade?
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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9200784" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>That is not true they are explicitly an attack action. Grapple is an attack action, so is shove so is a Dragonborn breathing. Here is the verbiage:</p><p></p><p>Grapple:</p><p><em>"When you want to grab a creature or wrestle with it,<u> you can use the Attack action</u> to make a special melee attack, a grapple."</em></p><p></p><p>Dragonborn Breath Weapon: </p><p><em>"When you <u>take the Attack action</u> on your turn, you can replace one of your attacks with an exhalation of magical energy in a 30-foot line that is 5 feet wide."</em></p><p></p><p>Both of these ARE the attack action and do NOT involve an attack roll.</p><p></p><p>You are conflating the need for an attack roll with using the attack action.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It is not unique I gave numerous examples of other spells above that create attacks not part of the casting action. Your argument rests on this and if Spiritual Weapon creates a new kind of action then it would stand to reason this spell does as well.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't see anywhere in them where they are the attack action or any different from other spells that make an attack roll, which is not part of casting.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9200784, member: 7030563"] That is not true they are explicitly an attack action. Grapple is an attack action, so is shove so is a Dragonborn breathing. Here is the verbiage: Grapple: [I]"When you want to grab a creature or wrestle with it,[U] you can use the Attack action[/U] to make a special melee attack, a grapple."[/I] Dragonborn Breath Weapon: [I]"When you [U]take the Attack action[/U] on your turn, you can replace one of your attacks with an exhalation of magical energy in a 30-foot line that is 5 feet wide."[/I] Both of these ARE the attack action and do NOT involve an attack roll. You are conflating the need for an attack roll with using the attack action. It is not unique I gave numerous examples of other spells above that create attacks not part of the casting action. Your argument rests on this and if Spiritual Weapon creates a new kind of action then it would stand to reason this spell does as well. I don't see anywhere in them where they are the attack action or any different from other spells that make an attack roll, which is not part of casting. [/QUOTE]
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