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<blockquote data-quote="sabrinathecat" data-source="post: 6278272" data-attributes="member: 89838"><p>You're trying to argue your point on an internet bulletin board. As has been stated, you are already wasting your time, by definition.</p><p>I cannot expand on what I said, because on this board it would be considered bashing religion, which earns demerits and possible banning. I'm a lapsed agnostic: I don't know if there's a supreme deity, and I don't care. If there is and it wants to talk to me, it will. So far, it hasn't. If there isn't one, it won't. DONE.</p><p>Atheism is what it is. Sadly, there is a down side to it, but out of respect for other beliefs, I will NOT detail that here.</p><p></p><p>If you are so convinced, why don't you do a study? Why don't you do the research? If you don't have the money, why don't you start a kickstarter or other fundraising to do the research?</p><p>Science and scientists in general will accept anything that is presented to them in the proper way. Use their weapons against them.</p><p>Religion is religion.</p><p>Science is science.</p><p>Many (if not most) scientists are also religious.</p><p>There is overlap.</p><p>There is conflict.</p><p>You decide for yourself which has priority in your life.</p><p>If you want to persuade others to join you, you'll have to be far more convincing than you have been. There is a style and argument to debate. There is even an art to it. This is a board with a lot of sci-fi fans, many of whom use science and logic as the basis of their lives. If you want them to accept something non-scientific and provide data (in fact, you refuse to provide any data for any of your claims), you may be fighting an uphill battle, or trying to fight it in the wrong place.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sabrinathecat, post: 6278272, member: 89838"] You're trying to argue your point on an internet bulletin board. As has been stated, you are already wasting your time, by definition. I cannot expand on what I said, because on this board it would be considered bashing religion, which earns demerits and possible banning. I'm a lapsed agnostic: I don't know if there's a supreme deity, and I don't care. If there is and it wants to talk to me, it will. So far, it hasn't. If there isn't one, it won't. DONE. Atheism is what it is. Sadly, there is a down side to it, but out of respect for other beliefs, I will NOT detail that here. If you are so convinced, why don't you do a study? Why don't you do the research? If you don't have the money, why don't you start a kickstarter or other fundraising to do the research? Science and scientists in general will accept anything that is presented to them in the proper way. Use their weapons against them. Religion is religion. Science is science. Many (if not most) scientists are also religious. There is overlap. There is conflict. You decide for yourself which has priority in your life. If you want to persuade others to join you, you'll have to be far more convincing than you have been. There is a style and argument to debate. There is even an art to it. This is a board with a lot of sci-fi fans, many of whom use science and logic as the basis of their lives. If you want them to accept something non-scientific and provide data (in fact, you refuse to provide any data for any of your claims), you may be fighting an uphill battle, or trying to fight it in the wrong place. [/QUOTE]
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