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<blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 6352115" data-attributes="member: 9037"><p>In cases of false accusations of child abuse what has been found is that they child has been manipulated by an adult this can be done accidentally as in the case of the Martin preschool case by the very therapists meant to try and get to the truth or quite deliberately. </p><p></p><p>In the case of Dylan Farrow it went to the police and to experts who felt that the child may have been manipulated by her mother to get her to make a false statement of abuse. As an adult Dylan has maintained she was abused and spent many years in therapy. She has a diagnosis of PTSD now because of the circumstances it is hard to say what happened but we can say without a doubt that Dylan Farrow was abused either sexually or emotionally as a child. She has been called a liar and maligned in a horrible fashion by Allen's fans and I think that is wrong. </p><p></p><p>As for the cop out that walking away was better for Dylan oh please what a load of hogwash. It was easier for Allen who has admitted he does not like dealing with conflict. When you have a child you take on a responsibility for that child's well being both physically and emotionally. If he is innocent of sexually abusing her then he knew that Mia had done since she was the one that tapped the girls' testimony. Yes custody cases are traumatic for the child but you know what else is traumatic leaving a child with a parent who is abusing them in some way. If Allen had man up to his responsibility as a father he could have fought for at least shared custody and fought for a court order of mandatory family and individual therapy for his children. Yeah it would have been emotionally draining for everyone involved but it would have been better than basically abandoning your child.</p><p></p><p></p><p>These things are not simple and I can understand not wanting to read her books but I can't understand some of the backlash against things she edited those writers had no complicity in the abuse except for one Elisabeth Waters knew about it and did nothing and she is the heir of MZB estate. I am not sure how much she gets from the new books being written in the Darkover universe by new authors. </p><p></p><p>Innocent until proven guilty is certainly a wonderful concept and one I try and live by. I have watched people jump in the bandwagon to convict a person of wrong doing without having heard the other side of the story or not having all the facts. But I also know we may not always have clear cut facts to make a judgement. Then we just have to go with what we think is right. As a victim of abuse and dealing with the issue of some people in my family not being able to deal with it so instead would rather think I was lying or had some false memory I tend to lean in the direction of giving the benefit of the doubt to the person claiming abuse. I am sure a person who was falsely accused of abuse would lean the other way. I know I would never want to sit on a jury of a case of child abuse because I would be worried my experiences would color my ability to be objective and a juror must strive for objectivity.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elf Witch, post: 6352115, member: 9037"] In cases of false accusations of child abuse what has been found is that they child has been manipulated by an adult this can be done accidentally as in the case of the Martin preschool case by the very therapists meant to try and get to the truth or quite deliberately. In the case of Dylan Farrow it went to the police and to experts who felt that the child may have been manipulated by her mother to get her to make a false statement of abuse. As an adult Dylan has maintained she was abused and spent many years in therapy. She has a diagnosis of PTSD now because of the circumstances it is hard to say what happened but we can say without a doubt that Dylan Farrow was abused either sexually or emotionally as a child. She has been called a liar and maligned in a horrible fashion by Allen's fans and I think that is wrong. As for the cop out that walking away was better for Dylan oh please what a load of hogwash. It was easier for Allen who has admitted he does not like dealing with conflict. When you have a child you take on a responsibility for that child's well being both physically and emotionally. If he is innocent of sexually abusing her then he knew that Mia had done since she was the one that tapped the girls' testimony. Yes custody cases are traumatic for the child but you know what else is traumatic leaving a child with a parent who is abusing them in some way. If Allen had man up to his responsibility as a father he could have fought for at least shared custody and fought for a court order of mandatory family and individual therapy for his children. Yeah it would have been emotionally draining for everyone involved but it would have been better than basically abandoning your child. These things are not simple and I can understand not wanting to read her books but I can't understand some of the backlash against things she edited those writers had no complicity in the abuse except for one Elisabeth Waters knew about it and did nothing and she is the heir of MZB estate. I am not sure how much she gets from the new books being written in the Darkover universe by new authors. Innocent until proven guilty is certainly a wonderful concept and one I try and live by. I have watched people jump in the bandwagon to convict a person of wrong doing without having heard the other side of the story or not having all the facts. But I also know we may not always have clear cut facts to make a judgement. Then we just have to go with what we think is right. As a victim of abuse and dealing with the issue of some people in my family not being able to deal with it so instead would rather think I was lying or had some false memory I tend to lean in the direction of giving the benefit of the doubt to the person claiming abuse. I am sure a person who was falsely accused of abuse would lean the other way. I know I would never want to sit on a jury of a case of child abuse because I would be worried my experiences would color my ability to be objective and a juror must strive for objectivity. [/QUOTE]
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