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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 6357300" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>Constitutional rights are between the citizen and the government. Not between citizens. </p><p></p><p>He certainly has the right to have those beliefs in private. He even has a right to state them in public. He has a personal blog in which he does so quite regularly. Nobody is stopping him. </p><p></p><p>I have the right to have a belief that he's hurtful and wrong, and to say so. I didn't in this case - I don't follow DC comics much, and it was pretty much all over before I saw it in the news - but it is my right to speak against his position, if I see fit.</p><p></p><p>DC has the right to listen to both, and decide what to do with Superman what they see fit.</p><p></p><p>Everyone's rights were upheld here.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There are two major differences. And my apologies if this edges on politics, but they are important to be clear:</p><p></p><p>1) Those who want to deny gay rights have frequently attempted to do so through legislation. Nobody has tried to legislate against Card of his beliefs. The Superman issue was between a business and its fans/customers. There was no governmental involvement.</p><p></p><p>2) Sexual orientation is, for the most part, a private matter that goes on in your own home. If Card had kept his beliefs in his personal life, there would not have been an issue. Instead, he's made himself a public figure and activist on certain subjects, and taken paid speaking engagements at politically-oriented gatherings. In making himself a public figure, he opens himself up to public scrutiny and criticism.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 6357300, member: 177"] Constitutional rights are between the citizen and the government. Not between citizens. He certainly has the right to have those beliefs in private. He even has a right to state them in public. He has a personal blog in which he does so quite regularly. Nobody is stopping him. I have the right to have a belief that he's hurtful and wrong, and to say so. I didn't in this case - I don't follow DC comics much, and it was pretty much all over before I saw it in the news - but it is my right to speak against his position, if I see fit. DC has the right to listen to both, and decide what to do with Superman what they see fit. Everyone's rights were upheld here. There are two major differences. And my apologies if this edges on politics, but they are important to be clear: 1) Those who want to deny gay rights have frequently attempted to do so through legislation. Nobody has tried to legislate against Card of his beliefs. The Superman issue was between a business and its fans/customers. There was no governmental involvement. 2) Sexual orientation is, for the most part, a private matter that goes on in your own home. If Card had kept his beliefs in his personal life, there would not have been an issue. Instead, he's made himself a public figure and activist on certain subjects, and taken paid speaking engagements at politically-oriented gatherings. In making himself a public figure, he opens himself up to public scrutiny and criticism. [/QUOTE]
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