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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 6357586" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>Good point. They are between the government and the people, more generally. </p><p></p><p>They are not, however, a protection from other private individuals. You do not have a freedom to practice your religion in *my* home, for example. If you come waltzing in and hold a religious ceremony in my dining room, I have the right to stop you and expel you. You are protected by law in certain ways - I cannot discriminate based on race or gender in my hiring practices, for example, but the general rights from the Constitution do not apply between private individuals. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I see two problems with that.</p><p></p><p>First, the logic of that breaks down when the robot is self-aware, and large chunks of it are run by self-modifying code. Mr. Gerrold's condition is buried deep in the factory defaults of his operating system, but Mr. Card's are in after-market, third party software. He could update that application to a less buggy version that is more cross-compatible.</p><p></p><p>Second, and perhaps more importantly, bad action can be expected in moments of surprise. If you have the Village People pop out of a birthday cake for Mr. Card, yeah, maybe he'll react with disgust. But when one has *time* to think about it (say, when taking a day or two to write a blog post) in a basically healthy person, that screwy brain can be overridden by the rational mind. And, while I disagree with Mr. Card's ideals, I don't have any evidence that he's unhealthy. He's just wrong about a lot of things.</p><p></p><p>Yes, humans have some very deep drives, but we are not, in fact, meat robots. Heck, even my house cat isn't a meat robot. I find the belief that humans lack free will to be extremely nihilistic, and leads to more harm than good when applied in practice.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 6357586, member: 177"] Good point. They are between the government and the people, more generally. They are not, however, a protection from other private individuals. You do not have a freedom to practice your religion in *my* home, for example. If you come waltzing in and hold a religious ceremony in my dining room, I have the right to stop you and expel you. You are protected by law in certain ways - I cannot discriminate based on race or gender in my hiring practices, for example, but the general rights from the Constitution do not apply between private individuals. I see two problems with that. First, the logic of that breaks down when the robot is self-aware, and large chunks of it are run by self-modifying code. Mr. Gerrold's condition is buried deep in the factory defaults of his operating system, but Mr. Card's are in after-market, third party software. He could update that application to a less buggy version that is more cross-compatible. Second, and perhaps more importantly, bad action can be expected in moments of surprise. If you have the Village People pop out of a birthday cake for Mr. Card, yeah, maybe he'll react with disgust. But when one has *time* to think about it (say, when taking a day or two to write a blog post) in a basically healthy person, that screwy brain can be overridden by the rational mind. And, while I disagree with Mr. Card's ideals, I don't have any evidence that he's unhealthy. He's just wrong about a lot of things. Yes, humans have some very deep drives, but we are not, in fact, meat robots. Heck, even my house cat isn't a meat robot. I find the belief that humans lack free will to be extremely nihilistic, and leads to more harm than good when applied in practice. [/QUOTE]
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