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<blockquote data-quote="Haltherrion" data-source="post: 5376312" data-attributes="member: 18253"><p>EnWorld discussions often wander into "the presence of 'X' will change what a castle looks like" where X might be gunpowder, magic, or what not. These discussions can be fun but often suffer for a lack of a definition of what is a castle.</p><p> </p><p>This thread is not really an attempt to define a castle, more a light-hearted, "I know what a castle is when I see it." I've collected what I hope most will find a survey of castle-like structures, mostly western and limited to 9 (I believe that is the poll limit).</p><p> </p><p>Multi-voting is allowed and my thought is that folks vote for the ones they think are castles in the sense of what they usually mean/think-of when playing a fantasy FRPG. Feel free to offer other exemplars and comments.</p><p> </p><p>Hopefully most of you will recognize what I mean for these sample castles. The links are to the wikipedia article on the subject which you can also find with your own searches if you don't trust my links.</p><p> </p><p><strong>The samples:</strong></p><p><span style="color: white"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Wooden </span></span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_camp" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800080">Roman Camp</span></span></span></a><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">. Roman Republic and Empire</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: white"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Stone </span></span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_camp" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800080">Roman Camp</span></span></span></a><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">. Roman Republic and Empire</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: white"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Wooden </span></span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte_and_bailey" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800080">Motte-and-Bailey</span></span></span></a><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">. 11th and 12th Centuries.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: white"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caernarfon_Castle" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800080">Caernarfon</span></span></span></a><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">. Built 1284. Large Edwardian castle.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: white"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_fort" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800080">Star Fort</span></span></span></a><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">. 1450s to 1600s. This article has a good overview of transition to these forts as gunpowder weapons came into the fore. Vauban created highly refined forts in this theme.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: white"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deal_Castle" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800080">Deal Castle</span></span></span></a><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">. Built 1540. Crenellated but squat.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: white"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_castle" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800080">Japanese Castle</span></span></span></a><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"> 16th century hey-day for the well known stone ones.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: white"><span style="color: white"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Putnam" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800080">Fort Putnum</span></span></span></a><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">. Built 1778. US Revolutionary War fort. The wikipedia picture doesn't do it justice; it has big stone walls.</span></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: white"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuschwanstein_Castle" target="_blank"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #800080">Neuschwanstein Castle</span></span></span></a><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'">. Completed 1892. “Mad” King Ludwig’s palace.</span></span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Samples are in chronological order and I tried to cast a wide net.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Calibri'"><span style="font-size: 12px">Remember to multi-vote: vote for any or all you think of as a castle.</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Haltherrion, post: 5376312, member: 18253"] EnWorld discussions often wander into "the presence of 'X' will change what a castle looks like" where X might be gunpowder, magic, or what not. These discussions can be fun but often suffer for a lack of a definition of what is a castle. This thread is not really an attempt to define a castle, more a light-hearted, "I know what a castle is when I see it." I've collected what I hope most will find a survey of castle-like structures, mostly western and limited to 9 (I believe that is the poll limit). Multi-voting is allowed and my thought is that folks vote for the ones they think are castles in the sense of what they usually mean/think-of when playing a fantasy FRPG. Feel free to offer other exemplars and comments. Hopefully most of you will recognize what I mean for these sample castles. The links are to the wikipedia article on the subject which you can also find with your own searches if you don't trust my links. [B]The samples:[/B] [COLOR=white][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]Wooden [/SIZE][/FONT][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_camp"][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080]Roman Camp[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/URL][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]. Roman Republic and Empire[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR=white][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]Stone [/SIZE][/FONT][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_camp"][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080]Roman Camp[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/URL][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]. Roman Republic and Empire[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR=white][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]Wooden [/SIZE][/FONT][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte_and_bailey"][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080]Motte-and-Bailey[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/URL][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]. 11th and 12th Centuries.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR=white][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caernarfon_Castle"][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080]Caernarfon[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/URL][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]. Built 1284. Large Edwardian castle.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR=white][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_fort"][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080]Star Fort[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/URL][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]. 1450s to 1600s. This article has a good overview of transition to these forts as gunpowder weapons came into the fore. Vauban created highly refined forts in this theme.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR=white][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deal_Castle"][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080]Deal Castle[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/URL][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]. Built 1540. Crenellated but squat.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR=white][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_castle"][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080]Japanese Castle[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/URL][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri] 16th century hey-day for the well known stone ones.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR] [COLOR=white][COLOR=white][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Putnam"][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080]Fort Putnum[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/URL][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]. Built 1778. US Revolutionary War fort. The wikipedia picture doesn't do it justice; it has big stone walls.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuschwanstein_Castle"][FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3][COLOR=#800080]Neuschwanstein Castle[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/URL][SIZE=3][FONT=Calibri]. Completed 1892. “Mad” King Ludwig’s palace.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]Samples are in chronological order and I tried to cast a wide net.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Calibri][SIZE=3]Remember to multi-vote: vote for any or all you think of as a castle.[/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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