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<blockquote data-quote="Villano" data-source="post: 1134451" data-attributes="member: 505"><p>I think the "black" issue arose only as an aside. People were chiming in with "She isn't like this" and "She isn't like that". Someone just mentioned race as another change on the very, very, long, why even call her "Catwoman", oh God this movie is going to be so bad, list.</p><p></p><p>But, let's look at things a bit differently. If you changed the race of Jimmy Olsen in the new Superman movie, would it be wrong to object? You might say, "So what if he's now black?" However, what if we exchange race for sexuality. Instead of black, the new Jimmy Olsen is gay. </p><p></p><p>Now, if someone objects to that, would it be wrong? </p><p></p><p>Or if Luke Cage went from being black to latino? Honestly, you could do the same stories, so why sould it matter? </p><p></p><p>Sometimes Hollywood is just plain weird and changes things just for the sake of changing them. I've seen the movie Congo, but never read the book. From what I understand, Ernie Hudson's big game hunter was originally white. The change didn't bother me. </p><p></p><p>However, I'm left scratching my head why they would hire an Englishman, Tim Curry, and then cast him as a Romanian instead of doing the obvious.</p><p></p><p>It's kind of like buying a horse to put in a western, and then having it play a cow. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> </p><p></p><p>Another change which is going to raise eyebrows when the movie is released is the casting of the Rock as Buford Pusser in the remake of Walking Tall. The problem is that the Rock is half Samoan and half black, and the real life Pusser was white.</p><p></p><p>Now your not only changing the race of a real person, but you're stuck with the issues that go hand in hand with being of black heritage in 60's Tennessee. </p><p></p><p>Of course, they'll most likely get around this by moving the story to the present, which will lead us to ask how much "true" is left in this true story.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think any implication of racism is a dangerous thing. How does one defend himself from such accusations? How do you prove what you think?</p><p></p><p>Years ago, the black woman on The Practice (don't watch the show so I don't know her name) was complaining about not getting a role. She called the producers racist.</p><p></p><p>So, what film was she denied because of her race? I'm not certain which one, but it was either The Crucible or The Scarlet Letter. </p><p></p><p>Now, the producers were so scared of being labelled "racists", that they went through this whole thing about her not being good enough for the part, the woman they cast was a better actress, etc, etc. They were too scared to simply say, "Yes, she didn't get the part because she's black. We're doing a historical drama about puritans and there weren't any black puritans. If we cast a black woman, it would destroy the 'historical' part of 'historical drama'."</p><p></p><p>I'm sure Morgan Freeman would turn in one hell of a performance as Abe Lincoln, but he shouldn't be cast as him. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p>Actually, this whole thing reminds me of The One-Legged Tarzan Sketch I once saw on tv. It was part of a filmed, British stage performance. There were a whole bunch of sketches, and this was but one.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, Dudley Moore played a one-legged actor who was trying out for the role of Tarzan. The producer was trying to delicately tell him he didn't get the part without coming out and saying that it's because he has one leg.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Villano, post: 1134451, member: 505"] I think the "black" issue arose only as an aside. People were chiming in with "She isn't like this" and "She isn't like that". Someone just mentioned race as another change on the very, very, long, why even call her "Catwoman", oh God this movie is going to be so bad, list. But, let's look at things a bit differently. If you changed the race of Jimmy Olsen in the new Superman movie, would it be wrong to object? You might say, "So what if he's now black?" However, what if we exchange race for sexuality. Instead of black, the new Jimmy Olsen is gay. Now, if someone objects to that, would it be wrong? Or if Luke Cage went from being black to latino? Honestly, you could do the same stories, so why sould it matter? Sometimes Hollywood is just plain weird and changes things just for the sake of changing them. I've seen the movie Congo, but never read the book. From what I understand, Ernie Hudson's big game hunter was originally white. The change didn't bother me. However, I'm left scratching my head why they would hire an Englishman, Tim Curry, and then cast him as a Romanian instead of doing the obvious. It's kind of like buying a horse to put in a western, and then having it play a cow. :rolleyes: Another change which is going to raise eyebrows when the movie is released is the casting of the Rock as Buford Pusser in the remake of Walking Tall. The problem is that the Rock is half Samoan and half black, and the real life Pusser was white. Now your not only changing the race of a real person, but you're stuck with the issues that go hand in hand with being of black heritage in 60's Tennessee. Of course, they'll most likely get around this by moving the story to the present, which will lead us to ask how much "true" is left in this true story. I think any implication of racism is a dangerous thing. How does one defend himself from such accusations? How do you prove what you think? Years ago, the black woman on The Practice (don't watch the show so I don't know her name) was complaining about not getting a role. She called the producers racist. So, what film was she denied because of her race? I'm not certain which one, but it was either The Crucible or The Scarlet Letter. Now, the producers were so scared of being labelled "racists", that they went through this whole thing about her not being good enough for the part, the woman they cast was a better actress, etc, etc. They were too scared to simply say, "Yes, she didn't get the part because she's black. We're doing a historical drama about puritans and there weren't any black puritans. If we cast a black woman, it would destroy the 'historical' part of 'historical drama'." I'm sure Morgan Freeman would turn in one hell of a performance as Abe Lincoln, but he shouldn't be cast as him. :) Actually, this whole thing reminds me of The One-Legged Tarzan Sketch I once saw on tv. It was part of a filmed, British stage performance. There were a whole bunch of sketches, and this was but one. Anyway, Dudley Moore played a one-legged actor who was trying out for the role of Tarzan. The producer was trying to delicately tell him he didn't get the part without coming out and saying that it's because he has one leg. [/QUOTE]
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