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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 6658274" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>The number I have heard bandied about is that guns are used in self-defense 2.5 million times each year. Mind you, that number comes from a study done by the NRA, that has a vested interest in the result.</p><p></p><p>The National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) conducted by the Bureau of Justice Statistics says that, in the 5 year period from 2007 to 2011, in property and violent crimes, guns were used in defensive action a total of 338,700 times (about 1% of the time, someone tries to defend themselves with a gun). That's total over all five years. And those are just the times guns were used - not the total number of times they were *successfully* used.</p><p></p><p>The FBI says that, in 2012, only 259 people were killed in a justifiable homicide (a civilian killing a felon during commission of a felony). And that happened to be a five-year high.</p><p></p><p>According to the 2004 book "Private Guns, Public Health" by Dr. David Hemenway, Professor of Health Policy at the Harvard School of Public Health and director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, the difference is in a problem of statistics and false positives in the NRA study. In essence, the NRA was extrapolating from a small sample set that is predisposed to reporting that they have stopped crimes with guns.</p><p></p><p>(cite for some of the above: <a href="http://www.vpc.org/studies/justifiable15.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.vpc.org/studies/justifiable15.pdf</a>)</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile, the CDC reports that in 2013, there were 21,175 successful suicides by firearm**, and 11,208 homicides by firearm*** </p><p></p><p>So, rouoghly speaking, guns are used in defense about 68,000 times a year. Leading to about 250 deaths of felons.</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile, they are used to kill 32,000+ people a year overall - and generally twice as many people kill themselves with a firearm than kill others with a firearm.</p><p></p><p>So, yes, defensive uses outnumber deaths. But is is not at all clear that the defensive uses are valuable enough to justify allowing the deaths to occur.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>**<a href="http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/suicide.htm" target="_blank">http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/suicide.htm</a></p><p>***<a href="http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm" target="_blank">http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 6658274, member: 177"] The number I have heard bandied about is that guns are used in self-defense 2.5 million times each year. Mind you, that number comes from a study done by the NRA, that has a vested interest in the result. The National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) conducted by the Bureau of Justice Statistics says that, in the 5 year period from 2007 to 2011, in property and violent crimes, guns were used in defensive action a total of 338,700 times (about 1% of the time, someone tries to defend themselves with a gun). That's total over all five years. And those are just the times guns were used - not the total number of times they were *successfully* used. The FBI says that, in 2012, only 259 people were killed in a justifiable homicide (a civilian killing a felon during commission of a felony). And that happened to be a five-year high. According to the 2004 book "Private Guns, Public Health" by Dr. David Hemenway, Professor of Health Policy at the Harvard School of Public Health and director of the Harvard Injury Control Research Center, the difference is in a problem of statistics and false positives in the NRA study. In essence, the NRA was extrapolating from a small sample set that is predisposed to reporting that they have stopped crimes with guns. (cite for some of the above: [url]http://www.vpc.org/studies/justifiable15.pdf[/url]) Meanwhile, the CDC reports that in 2013, there were 21,175 successful suicides by firearm**, and 11,208 homicides by firearm*** So, rouoghly speaking, guns are used in defense about 68,000 times a year. Leading to about 250 deaths of felons. Meanwhile, they are used to kill 32,000+ people a year overall - and generally twice as many people kill themselves with a firearm than kill others with a firearm. So, yes, defensive uses outnumber deaths. But is is not at all clear that the defensive uses are valuable enough to justify allowing the deaths to occur. **[url]http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/suicide.htm[/url] ***[url]http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm[/url] [/QUOTE]
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