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<blockquote data-quote="MrMyth" data-source="post: 5351322" data-attributes="member: 61155"><p>For me, the defining characteristic of 3.5 was the publishing of new versions of existing books that current players needed to purchase to retain the current rules of the game. </p><p> </p><p>That has not happened here. What we have is a book that will serve as a stepping stone for Essentials players into the rest of the game, and a book that existing players <em>can</em> buy if they want what is effectively an updated PHB with errata incorporated and fancy new Essentials formatting/presentation/portability. Some people will want that, and thus buy this. </p><p> </p><p>Unlike with 3.5, though, many other existing players won't buy this and <em>don't need to do so</em>. </p><p> </p><p>That's the bottom line, for me. I don't need to buy this book. I can buy other books that come after it and they will remain 100% compatible with my existing PHB. I can play my PHB characters alongside Essentials characters without any problems at all. </p><p> </p><p>Some people claim you could do the same with 3.0 and 3.5. All I can say is... it didn't feel that way for me. </p><p> </p><p>Hence, for me, this is not 4.5 in any way that actually matters. </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>No, you don't. All you need, technically, is the free errata online for whatever product you have. </p><p> </p><p>My PHB <em>is current </em>with the "core" rules. There is some errata that changes things... though the vast majority of it is to specific details and not the core rules itself. The new magic item system is really the only thing of note, and that is basically an alternative approach rather than an actual replacement. </p><p> </p><p>3.0 to 3.5 changed not just the details of classes and races and feats and spells (usually in ways with much larger ramifications on the game), but also core systems like magic items, damage reduction, monster creation, and the skill system. Changes to Bull's Strength, Haste, etc completely altered entire play styles. I don't think I've seen a single change in all of 4E that compares to the changes to those spells. </p><p> </p><p>My 4E PHB is current in a way that a 3.0 PHB, when 3.5 was released, could never be.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MrMyth, post: 5351322, member: 61155"] For me, the defining characteristic of 3.5 was the publishing of new versions of existing books that current players needed to purchase to retain the current rules of the game. That has not happened here. What we have is a book that will serve as a stepping stone for Essentials players into the rest of the game, and a book that existing players [I]can[/I] buy if they want what is effectively an updated PHB with errata incorporated and fancy new Essentials formatting/presentation/portability. Some people will want that, and thus buy this. Unlike with 3.5, though, many other existing players won't buy this and [I]don't need to do so[/I]. That's the bottom line, for me. I don't need to buy this book. I can buy other books that come after it and they will remain 100% compatible with my existing PHB. I can play my PHB characters alongside Essentials characters without any problems at all. Some people claim you could do the same with 3.0 and 3.5. All I can say is... it didn't feel that way for me. Hence, for me, this is not 4.5 in any way that actually matters. No, you don't. All you need, technically, is the free errata online for whatever product you have. My PHB [I]is current [/I]with the "core" rules. There is some errata that changes things... though the vast majority of it is to specific details and not the core rules itself. The new magic item system is really the only thing of note, and that is basically an alternative approach rather than an actual replacement. 3.0 to 3.5 changed not just the details of classes and races and feats and spells (usually in ways with much larger ramifications on the game), but also core systems like magic items, damage reduction, monster creation, and the skill system. Changes to Bull's Strength, Haste, etc completely altered entire play styles. I don't think I've seen a single change in all of 4E that compares to the changes to those spells. My 4E PHB is current in a way that a 3.0 PHB, when 3.5 was released, could never be. [/QUOTE]
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