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<blockquote data-quote="Rechan" data-source="post: 4592304" data-attributes="member: 54846"><p>What? </p><p></p><p>I don't understand this <em>at all</em>.</p><p></p><p>What's the difference in a Cleric with a Wis 18 and Cha 14, and a Swordmage with Int 18 and Con 14? Those are <em>the same</em>. Both classes have 'your primary stat and your secondary stat' they are focused on.</p><p></p><p>The Str focused cleric doesn't <em>need</em> a high Wis, because he's a <em>str focused cleric</em>. He's not attacking with the Wisdom. If he wants to straddle both, that's his own damn fault, like a tactical warlord sacrificing a high Int so he can have an equal Int and Cha because he wants other powers.</p><p></p><p>That doesn't mean 'weaker'. Compare all the Paladin's At-Wills to the Warlord's At-Wills. They all target AC (well, Furious Smash targets Fort, but it's a different sort of power). So how are the Paladin's at-wills weaker than the Warlord's? </p><p></p><p>Also, you're talking about "choices". Let's go back to the Warlord. The Warlord focuses on Str, and chooses between Int and Cha. Your argument is that the Warlord is stronger because all of his powers key off Str, and so he is better because he has more choices for powers. However, a Tactical Warlord is going to benefit less from picking up a power that keys off his Charisma if his Int is higher. That power is <em>weaker</em> compared to his other options. Despite the fact of him <em>having</em> the option, that option is to <em>choose</em> a power that is weaker given his stats.</p><p></p><p>Fewer Options does not equal Weak. It might equal <em>less fun</em>, but it doesn't mean 'weaker' in terms of how powerful the class is. Weak means 'mathmatically inferior' or 'not as good as power x'. Everyone has the same amount of powers they get, so even if the cleric can only choose between 2 and the Warlord can choose between 4, both still only get 1, and if the Cleric's 2 encounter powers are on par with the Warlord's, they are not weaker compared.</p><p></p><p>So if you want to say 'strictly weak', then it's 'only weak if you define weak as not having as many options'. A better word would be 'Narrow-focused' or 'Constrained'.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rechan, post: 4592304, member: 54846"] What? I don't understand this [I]at all[/I]. What's the difference in a Cleric with a Wis 18 and Cha 14, and a Swordmage with Int 18 and Con 14? Those are [I]the same[/I]. Both classes have 'your primary stat and your secondary stat' they are focused on. The Str focused cleric doesn't [I]need[/I] a high Wis, because he's a [I]str focused cleric[/I]. He's not attacking with the Wisdom. If he wants to straddle both, that's his own damn fault, like a tactical warlord sacrificing a high Int so he can have an equal Int and Cha because he wants other powers. That doesn't mean 'weaker'. Compare all the Paladin's At-Wills to the Warlord's At-Wills. They all target AC (well, Furious Smash targets Fort, but it's a different sort of power). So how are the Paladin's at-wills weaker than the Warlord's? Also, you're talking about "choices". Let's go back to the Warlord. The Warlord focuses on Str, and chooses between Int and Cha. Your argument is that the Warlord is stronger because all of his powers key off Str, and so he is better because he has more choices for powers. However, a Tactical Warlord is going to benefit less from picking up a power that keys off his Charisma if his Int is higher. That power is [I]weaker[/I] compared to his other options. Despite the fact of him [I]having[/I] the option, that option is to [I]choose[/I] a power that is weaker given his stats. Fewer Options does not equal Weak. It might equal [I]less fun[/I], but it doesn't mean 'weaker' in terms of how powerful the class is. Weak means 'mathmatically inferior' or 'not as good as power x'. Everyone has the same amount of powers they get, so even if the cleric can only choose between 2 and the Warlord can choose between 4, both still only get 1, and if the Cleric's 2 encounter powers are on par with the Warlord's, they are not weaker compared. So if you want to say 'strictly weak', then it's 'only weak if you define weak as not having as many options'. A better word would be 'Narrow-focused' or 'Constrained'. [/QUOTE]
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