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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 747190" data-attributes="member: 1465"><p><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /> </p><p></p><p>1) What should be done about Bards, Druids, Monks, Rangers?</p><p></p><p>Except for Monks, I have seen them all played both single-class and multi-class, and never had a balance problem in any case yet. A little annoying has been only a Ranger(1)/Fighter(rest), and in fact the front-loadedness of the Ranger is universally acknowledged.</p><p></p><p>Flexibility-wise it seems to me that Monks are more rigid than any other class, so that every Monk at level X in the world has exactly the same class features, which are all quite specific to use.</p><p></p><p>Flavor-wise they are all ok IMHO. Skills and Feats are already enough to make the Ranger a great archer, a great woodsman, or a great something else, especially combined with the currently very nature-oriented spells. There are approximately as many Ranger variants arounds as there are D&D players, and I think there will still be as many after the revision: to fulfill everybody's stereotype, the only way would be to turn the Ranger's current features into Feats and play a Fighter.</p><p></p><p>2) What will be done about Bards, Druids, Monks, Rangers?</p><p></p><p>AFAIK...</p><p></p><p>Bards will get 6 skill points/level instead of 4 and more available bardic music abilities.</p><p></p><p>Druids will have the weapon/armor restriction loosen, if not totally removed.</p><p></p><p>Monks are said to be made more flexible (but I guess it means they just use the OA version, which is minimally more flexible IIRC) and won't have multiclassing restrictions anymore.</p><p></p><p>Rangers will be the only seriously changed class: bonus feats will be moved to higher levels and more than one "feats path" alternative will be available. Everything else (except BAB) may be changed, but it is not yet clear what and how.</p><p></p><p>Possibly every spell list in the PHB will be "tweaked", which means some spells may change level and may be copied from other lists, and of course few "new" spells will be incorporated from WotC splatbooks. I don't expect more critical changes to them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 747190, member: 1465"] :rolleyes: 1) What should be done about Bards, Druids, Monks, Rangers? Except for Monks, I have seen them all played both single-class and multi-class, and never had a balance problem in any case yet. A little annoying has been only a Ranger(1)/Fighter(rest), and in fact the front-loadedness of the Ranger is universally acknowledged. Flexibility-wise it seems to me that Monks are more rigid than any other class, so that every Monk at level X in the world has exactly the same class features, which are all quite specific to use. Flavor-wise they are all ok IMHO. Skills and Feats are already enough to make the Ranger a great archer, a great woodsman, or a great something else, especially combined with the currently very nature-oriented spells. There are approximately as many Ranger variants arounds as there are D&D players, and I think there will still be as many after the revision: to fulfill everybody's stereotype, the only way would be to turn the Ranger's current features into Feats and play a Fighter. 2) What will be done about Bards, Druids, Monks, Rangers? AFAIK... Bards will get 6 skill points/level instead of 4 and more available bardic music abilities. Druids will have the weapon/armor restriction loosen, if not totally removed. Monks are said to be made more flexible (but I guess it means they just use the OA version, which is minimally more flexible IIRC) and won't have multiclassing restrictions anymore. Rangers will be the only seriously changed class: bonus feats will be moved to higher levels and more than one "feats path" alternative will be available. Everything else (except BAB) may be changed, but it is not yet clear what and how. Possibly every spell list in the PHB will be "tweaked", which means some spells may change level and may be copied from other lists, and of course few "new" spells will be incorporated from WotC splatbooks. I don't expect more critical changes to them. [/QUOTE]
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