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<blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 747816" data-attributes="member: 114"><p>I wish people could get it into their heads that RANGERS ARE NO MORE FRONT LOADED THAN ANY OTHER CLASS!</p><p></p><p>Sorry, I just had to shout there, since saying it in bold and italics it evidently hasn't caught on!</p><p></p><p>It is no more frontloaded than Barbarian (fast movement and rage!), monk (evasion!), sorcerer (6x1st level spells a day!), paladin (cha bonus to saves!), cleric (healing magic and domain powers!), wizard (scrolls, use wands etc!), rogues (sneak attack!).</p><p></p><p>Look at it carefully. Almost every class gives a decent benefit for taking one level in the class.</p><p></p><p>Check again, and you will see that the Ranger is one of the only classes which doesn't give you any special benefit for taking level 2... *that* is a major drawback to the ranger... no "pull" into the higher levels.</p><p></p><p>Steverooo has it right - the ranger needs flavourful class abilities (which would end in one stroke the complaints that "a better ranger can be made through multiclassing"). They need to have a uniqueness restored to them.</p><p></p><p>- and what is the problem with Monks? Each monk can choose to spend his skill points differently, each can choose different feats... one might take PowerAttack/Sunder/Cleave and have lots of fun. Another might go Expertise/ImprovedDisarm or Dodge/Mobility/SpringAttack/ ..(Expertise/Whirlwind Attack)</p><p></p><p>Yet another might go PointBlank/RapidShot/PreciseShot and aim for Assassin so he can lob lots of poisoned shuriken about...</p><p></p><p>Class abilities are basically static things, the same across all classes. The monk has more class abilities than any other class (it is his "schtick") but that doesn't limit what he does with other feats or skills, now does it? And that isn't even considering magic items which get thrown into the mix. I don't really see the monk problem (apart from the silly multiclass restriction which they ought to throw away)</p><p></p><p>Cheers</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Plane Sailing, post: 747816, member: 114"] I wish people could get it into their heads that RANGERS ARE NO MORE FRONT LOADED THAN ANY OTHER CLASS! Sorry, I just had to shout there, since saying it in bold and italics it evidently hasn't caught on! It is no more frontloaded than Barbarian (fast movement and rage!), monk (evasion!), sorcerer (6x1st level spells a day!), paladin (cha bonus to saves!), cleric (healing magic and domain powers!), wizard (scrolls, use wands etc!), rogues (sneak attack!). Look at it carefully. Almost every class gives a decent benefit for taking one level in the class. Check again, and you will see that the Ranger is one of the only classes which doesn't give you any special benefit for taking level 2... *that* is a major drawback to the ranger... no "pull" into the higher levels. Steverooo has it right - the ranger needs flavourful class abilities (which would end in one stroke the complaints that "a better ranger can be made through multiclassing"). They need to have a uniqueness restored to them. - and what is the problem with Monks? Each monk can choose to spend his skill points differently, each can choose different feats... one might take PowerAttack/Sunder/Cleave and have lots of fun. Another might go Expertise/ImprovedDisarm or Dodge/Mobility/SpringAttack/ ..(Expertise/Whirlwind Attack) Yet another might go PointBlank/RapidShot/PreciseShot and aim for Assassin so he can lob lots of poisoned shuriken about... Class abilities are basically static things, the same across all classes. The monk has more class abilities than any other class (it is his "schtick") but that doesn't limit what he does with other feats or skills, now does it? And that isn't even considering magic items which get thrown into the mix. I don't really see the monk problem (apart from the silly multiclass restriction which they ought to throw away) Cheers [/QUOTE]
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