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<blockquote data-quote="RHGreen" data-source="post: 5888725"><p>Just a note:</p><p> </p><p>WIKI on Mace-</p><p> </p><p>"It is popularly believed that maces were employed by the clergy in warfare to avoid shedding blood (<em>sine effusione sanguinis</em>). </p><p> </p><p>The evidence for this is sparse and appears to derive almost entirely from the depiction of Bishop <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odo_of_Bayeux" target="_blank"><span style="color: white">Odo of Bayeux</span></a> wielding a club-like mace at the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hastings" target="_blank"><span style="color: white">Battle of Hastings</span></a> in the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayeux_Tapestry" target="_blank"><span style="color: white">Bayeux Tapestry</span></a>, the idea being that he did so to avoid either shedding blood or bearing the arms of war. The fact that his brother Duke William carries a similar item suggests that, in this context, the mace may have been simply a symbol of authority. </p><p> </p><p>Certainly, other Bishops were depicted bearing the arms of a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight" target="_blank"><span style="color: white">knight</span></a> without comment, such as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archbishop_Turpin" target="_blank"><span style="color: white">Archbishop Turpin</span></a> who bears both a spear and a sword named "<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almace" target="_blank"><span style="color: white">Almace</span></a>" in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Song_of_Roland" target="_blank"><span style="color: white">The Song of Roland</span></a><span style="color: white"> or Bishop </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhemar_of_Le_Puy" target="_blank"><span style="color: white">Adhemar of Le Puy</span></a><span style="color: white">, who also appears to have fought as a knight during the </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Crusade" target="_blank"><span style="color: white">First Crusade</span></a><span style="color: white">, an expedition that Odo joined and died during."</span></p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">1. Clerics fighting in battle wearing armour is a historical fact, not just a D&Dism.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">2. There is a president for clerics using maces even if the evidence is sparse and unconvincing.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">FLUFF CARROT: For blunt weapons I'd make a feat called "Sine Effusione Sanguinis" - If a cleric does not shed blood - uses blunt weapons - the cleric gets extra healing.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 12px">*(Copy-Paste buggers formatting)</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RHGreen, post: 5888725"] Just a note: WIKI on Mace- "It is popularly believed that maces were employed by the clergy in warfare to avoid shedding blood ([I]sine effusione sanguinis[/I]). The evidence for this is sparse and appears to derive almost entirely from the depiction of Bishop [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odo_of_Bayeux"][COLOR=white]Odo of Bayeux[/COLOR][/URL] wielding a club-like mace at the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hastings"][COLOR=white]Battle of Hastings[/COLOR][/URL] in the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayeux_Tapestry"][COLOR=white]Bayeux Tapestry[/COLOR][/URL], the idea being that he did so to avoid either shedding blood or bearing the arms of war. The fact that his brother Duke William carries a similar item suggests that, in this context, the mace may have been simply a symbol of authority. Certainly, other Bishops were depicted bearing the arms of a [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight"][COLOR=white]knight[/COLOR][/URL] without comment, such as [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archbishop_Turpin"][COLOR=white]Archbishop Turpin[/COLOR][/URL] who bears both a spear and a sword named "[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almace"][COLOR=white]Almace[/COLOR][/URL]" in [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Song_of_Roland"][COLOR=white]The Song of Roland[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=white] or Bishop [/COLOR][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adhemar_of_Le_Puy"][COLOR=white]Adhemar of Le Puy[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=white], who also appears to have fought as a knight during the [/COLOR][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Crusade"][COLOR=white]First Crusade[/COLOR][/URL][COLOR=white], an expedition that Odo joined and died during."[/COLOR] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]1. Clerics fighting in battle wearing armour is a historical fact, not just a D&Dism.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]2. There is a president for clerics using maces even if the evidence is sparse and unconvincing.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]FLUFF CARROT: For blunt weapons I'd make a feat called "Sine Effusione Sanguinis" - If a cleric does not shed blood - uses blunt weapons - the cleric gets extra healing.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Arial][SIZE=3]*(Copy-Paste buggers formatting)[/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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