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<blockquote data-quote="jeffh" data-source="post: 6346420" data-attributes="member: 2642"><p>Here's the comment I just posted under that review:</p><p></p><p>Intentionally or not, your review methodology is very tilted in Paizo's favour.</p><p></p><p>You didn't expose these players to the difference that is perhaps most important to a real-world purchase decision - price. Your language can also be read as trying to downplay this. Unlike some others, I'm not accusing you of doing this on purpose - I read you as saying the difference in *absolute* terms is not that large, which I disagree with but I see why someone with greater resources would regard it as true - but given that one is in fact over twice the price of the other on Amazon, your review is misleading regarding the *relative* difference.</p><p></p><p>You also didn't mention the very significant difference in how much adventure material is included - a 20+ hour mini-campaign in the D&D case versus an adventure that, as I understand it, most groups finish in one or two sessions for PF. In fact, the single, very unclear sentence you devoted to this general topic might give some people, especially those not already familiar with the D&D set, the impression that both are on the Pathfinder end of this particular scale. Again, I don't think you did this on purpose. It looks like the sort of minor mistake an editor would catch in a professional review, which happens to the best of us. But intentionally or not, the choice to do a one-shot favours Pathfinder by ignoring one of the D&D box's biggest strengths.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, I've been making this point from the word go:</p><p>"While I thought that the addition of the character generation rules for free as a download was a good move on the part of D&D, I was almost universally disagreed with by the beginners, all of which were much happier to have a book in their hands to flip through and considered the lack of said rules to look through in the box to be a dreadful larceny."</p><p></p><p>Having this as a free .pdf is just not the same as having it IN THE DAMN BOOK, and no-one on the more D&D oriented boards will listen when I point this out so it does my heart good to see someone else making the same point.</p><p></p><p>Despite this, though, it was almost inevitable that this review would go in favour of the Pathfinder set as soon as you made the questionable methodological choices I point out above. Probably without meaning to, you played directly to Paizo's strengths.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jeffh, post: 6346420, member: 2642"] Here's the comment I just posted under that review: Intentionally or not, your review methodology is very tilted in Paizo's favour. You didn't expose these players to the difference that is perhaps most important to a real-world purchase decision - price. Your language can also be read as trying to downplay this. Unlike some others, I'm not accusing you of doing this on purpose - I read you as saying the difference in *absolute* terms is not that large, which I disagree with but I see why someone with greater resources would regard it as true - but given that one is in fact over twice the price of the other on Amazon, your review is misleading regarding the *relative* difference. You also didn't mention the very significant difference in how much adventure material is included - a 20+ hour mini-campaign in the D&D case versus an adventure that, as I understand it, most groups finish in one or two sessions for PF. In fact, the single, very unclear sentence you devoted to this general topic might give some people, especially those not already familiar with the D&D set, the impression that both are on the Pathfinder end of this particular scale. Again, I don't think you did this on purpose. It looks like the sort of minor mistake an editor would catch in a professional review, which happens to the best of us. But intentionally or not, the choice to do a one-shot favours Pathfinder by ignoring one of the D&D box's biggest strengths. On the other hand, I've been making this point from the word go: "While I thought that the addition of the character generation rules for free as a download was a good move on the part of D&D, I was almost universally disagreed with by the beginners, all of which were much happier to have a book in their hands to flip through and considered the lack of said rules to look through in the box to be a dreadful larceny." Having this as a free .pdf is just not the same as having it IN THE DAMN BOOK, and no-one on the more D&D oriented boards will listen when I point this out so it does my heart good to see someone else making the same point. Despite this, though, it was almost inevitable that this review would go in favour of the Pathfinder set as soon as you made the questionable methodological choices I point out above. Probably without meaning to, you played directly to Paizo's strengths. [/QUOTE]
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