Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Next
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
Twitch
YouTube
Facebook (EN Publishing)
Facebook (EN World)
Twitter
Instagram
TikTok
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
The
VOIDRUNNER'S CODEX
is coming! Explore new worlds, fight oppressive empires, fend off fearsome aliens, and wield deadly psionics with this comprehensive boxed set expansion for 5E and A5E!
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Companion thread to Survivor:Proficiencies
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="see" data-source="post: 8993455" data-attributes="member: 10531"><p>By a immediate and direct reading of the actual descriptions.</p><p></p><p>Calligrapher's supplies:</p><p>"<strong><em>Components.</em></strong> Calligrapher's supplies include ink, a dozen sheets of parchment, and three quills.” -- Xanthar's Guide to Everything, p.79.</p><p></p><p>Forgery Kit:</p><p>"This small box contains a variety of papers and parchments, pens and inks, seals and sealing wax, gold and silver leaf, and other supplies necessary to create convincing forgeries of physical documents." -- PHB, p.154.</p><p></p><p>"<strong><em>Components.</em></strong> A forgery kit includes several different types of ink, a variety of parchments and papers, several quills, seals and sealing wax, gold and silver leaf, and small tools to to sculpt melted wax to mimic a seal." -- Xanthar's Guide to Everything, p.81.</p><p></p><p>So, the calligrapher's supplies has ink -- which the forger's kit has. It has parchment -- which the forger's kit has. It has three quill pens -- which the forger's kit has. And then the forger's kit has a bunch of other things. The calligrapher's supplies are, as a tool, a proper subset of the forgery kit.</p><p>[HR][/HR]</p><p>Further, as a simple logical matter, if a forger couldn't duplicate everything a calligrapher can do with calligrapher's supplies, then the forger couldn't actually forge the documents made by the calligrapher. So, it's clear that a calligrapher's core skills (until we get into the "special use" zone in Xanthar's descriptions) are a subset of a forger's skills.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="see, post: 8993455, member: 10531"] By a immediate and direct reading of the actual descriptions. Calligrapher's supplies: "[B][I]Components.[/I][/B] Calligrapher's supplies include ink, a dozen sheets of parchment, and three quills.” -- Xanthar's Guide to Everything, p.79. Forgery Kit: "This small box contains a variety of papers and parchments, pens and inks, seals and sealing wax, gold and silver leaf, and other supplies necessary to create convincing forgeries of physical documents." -- PHB, p.154. "[B][I]Components.[/I][/B] A forgery kit includes several different types of ink, a variety of parchments and papers, several quills, seals and sealing wax, gold and silver leaf, and small tools to to sculpt melted wax to mimic a seal." -- Xanthar's Guide to Everything, p.81. So, the calligrapher's supplies has ink -- which the forger's kit has. It has parchment -- which the forger's kit has. It has three quill pens -- which the forger's kit has. And then the forger's kit has a bunch of other things. The calligrapher's supplies are, as a tool, a proper subset of the forgery kit. [HR][/HR] Further, as a simple logical matter, if a forger couldn't duplicate everything a calligrapher can do with calligrapher's supplies, then the forger couldn't actually forge the documents made by the calligrapher. So, it's clear that a calligrapher's core skills (until we get into the "special use" zone in Xanthar's descriptions) are a subset of a forger's skills. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Companion thread to Survivor:Proficiencies
Top