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Comparison/number-crunching time! -5/+10 feats: How much "too good" are they?
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<blockquote data-quote="The Crimson Binome" data-source="post: 6998589" data-attributes="member: 6775031"><p>This doesn't <em>necessarily</em> follow. A feat only needs to be as valuable as +2 to your primary stat <em>if</em> you are primarily concerned with presenting an interesting decision at level 4, and the designers really should have learned by now that it's not cool to balance things at one level at the expense of other levels. </p><p></p><p>The choice is never whether or not you want to cap your primary stat. The current choice is whether you want to cap your primary stat <em>first</em>, or whether you have other priorities. The long-term decision always comes out to whether you want a primary 20 and some feats, or a primary 20 and slightly higher secondary stats. If a feat is worth +2 to your primary, then obviously the former set is just better than the latter.</p><p></p><p>A better balance point would be making a feat worth +2 to your secondary stats, such as Constitution (which all classes need in roughly equal amounts - wizards and rogues already have lower hit dice and AC, so they need a high Con to compensate). In fact, you can see this sort of logic if you look at the variant human option, which doesn't even pretend that you would give up your primary stat in exchange for a feat.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Crimson Binome, post: 6998589, member: 6775031"] This doesn't [I]necessarily[/I] follow. A feat only needs to be as valuable as +2 to your primary stat [I]if[/I] you are primarily concerned with presenting an interesting decision at level 4, and the designers really should have learned by now that it's not cool to balance things at one level at the expense of other levels. The choice is never whether or not you want to cap your primary stat. The current choice is whether you want to cap your primary stat [I]first[/I], or whether you have other priorities. The long-term decision always comes out to whether you want a primary 20 and some feats, or a primary 20 and slightly higher secondary stats. If a feat is worth +2 to your primary, then obviously the former set is just better than the latter. A better balance point would be making a feat worth +2 to your secondary stats, such as Constitution (which all classes need in roughly equal amounts - wizards and rogues already have lower hit dice and AC, so they need a high Con to compensate). In fact, you can see this sort of logic if you look at the variant human option, which doesn't even pretend that you would give up your primary stat in exchange for a feat. [/QUOTE]
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