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<blockquote data-quote="Bedrockgames" data-source="post: 6217498" data-attributes="member: 85555"><p>I am not sure this is the case though. I do agree a lot of people carry ethnic assumptions when it comes to Islam, but Conan O'brien really doesn't strike me as the sort who does and i didn't see that at work here. I didnt get the impression that he was making any assumptions about her race, so much as he was making assumptions about her marital practices based on her religion. I think it is comparable to a joke about mormon polygamists. In both Islam and Mormonism, polygyny is rare but does (or has) occur (ed) and is accociated with the faiths. In islam it tends to vary considerably by region. There are definitely a ton of incorrect assumptions about this aspect of Islam. Whether targeting a religion for humor is appropriate is another question. Personally, i don't like to belittle peoples' beliefs or lack of beliefs, but i also think it is important that religion be subject to the same criticism and freedom of expression as other institutions. I am always a bit wary though when folks clamp down on comedians for tackling religion for that reason or when they say religion is off limits for critique or humor. I think if you go there, then you potentially lose great works like Life of Brian. At the end of the day though, whether or not the joke was offensive, i think it just wasn't funny and felt like a real lazy effort. It was about as clever as a fart joke.</p><p></p><p>i cannot speak for muslims. My guess is some will take offense, and some will not. I did study Islam in college as part of my middle east history focus and its a much more complex and interesting faith than many people realize (and a lot of what you see in places like Saudi Arabia are actually newer developments in the religion). One of the good things that these sorts of controversies lead to is an opportunity for people to learn more. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It is worth pointing out that Islam is a racially and ethnically diverse religion. It is also a huge faith that spans much of the globe. It is not limited to the middle east and north africa.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bedrockgames, post: 6217498, member: 85555"] I am not sure this is the case though. I do agree a lot of people carry ethnic assumptions when it comes to Islam, but Conan O'brien really doesn't strike me as the sort who does and i didn't see that at work here. I didnt get the impression that he was making any assumptions about her race, so much as he was making assumptions about her marital practices based on her religion. I think it is comparable to a joke about mormon polygamists. In both Islam and Mormonism, polygyny is rare but does (or has) occur (ed) and is accociated with the faiths. In islam it tends to vary considerably by region. There are definitely a ton of incorrect assumptions about this aspect of Islam. Whether targeting a religion for humor is appropriate is another question. Personally, i don't like to belittle peoples' beliefs or lack of beliefs, but i also think it is important that religion be subject to the same criticism and freedom of expression as other institutions. I am always a bit wary though when folks clamp down on comedians for tackling religion for that reason or when they say religion is off limits for critique or humor. I think if you go there, then you potentially lose great works like Life of Brian. At the end of the day though, whether or not the joke was offensive, i think it just wasn't funny and felt like a real lazy effort. It was about as clever as a fart joke. i cannot speak for muslims. My guess is some will take offense, and some will not. I did study Islam in college as part of my middle east history focus and its a much more complex and interesting faith than many people realize (and a lot of what you see in places like Saudi Arabia are actually newer developments in the religion). One of the good things that these sorts of controversies lead to is an opportunity for people to learn more. It is worth pointing out that Islam is a racially and ethnically diverse religion. It is also a huge faith that spans much of the globe. It is not limited to the middle east and north africa. [/QUOTE]
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