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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 6609305" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>We need to agree on the wording before it's settled though. How's this:</p><p></p><p><strong>Special Attacks:</strong> A Phlegamor's servant loses all spell-like special attacks and any special attacks from the base creature's character classes, if any. It retains any extraordinary or supernatural special attack of the base creature that is purely physical in nature, including breath weapons, but loses any special attack that is language-dependent or has a saving throw DC based on a mental ability score (Int, Wis or Cha). It also loses any other special attack that requires the mind or soul of the original creature to use, at the DM's discretion. </p><p></p><p><strong>Special Qualities:</strong> A Phlegamor's servant loses all spell-like special qualities and any special qualities from the base creature's character classes, if any. It retains the extraordinary or supernatural special qualities of the base creature with the following exceptions. It loses any special quality that is language-dependent or has a saving throw DC based on a mental ability score (Int, Wis or Cha). It also loses any other special quality that requires the mind or soul of the original creature, at the DM's discretion.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, I think we're good.</p><p></p><p>For the CR, it seems like we might want to give two progressions, one for base creatures with a lot of mind-powers (who'll be a LOT weaker) and one for physical threats (who'll be more-or-less the same).</p><p></p><p>Something like the associated and non-associated levels used in CR calculations.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 6609305, member: 57383"] We need to agree on the wording before it's settled though. How's this: [B]Special Attacks:[/B] A Phlegamor's servant loses all spell-like special attacks and any special attacks from the base creature's character classes, if any. It retains any extraordinary or supernatural special attack of the base creature that is purely physical in nature, including breath weapons, but loses any special attack that is language-dependent or has a saving throw DC based on a mental ability score (Int, Wis or Cha). It also loses any other special attack that requires the mind or soul of the original creature to use, at the DM's discretion. [B]Special Qualities:[/B] A Phlegamor's servant loses all spell-like special qualities and any special qualities from the base creature's character classes, if any. It retains the extraordinary or supernatural special qualities of the base creature with the following exceptions. It loses any special quality that is language-dependent or has a saving throw DC based on a mental ability score (Int, Wis or Cha). It also loses any other special quality that requires the mind or soul of the original creature, at the DM's discretion. No, I think we're good. For the CR, it seems like we might want to give two progressions, one for base creatures with a lot of mind-powers (who'll be a LOT weaker) and one for physical threats (who'll be more-or-less the same). Something like the associated and non-associated levels used in CR calculations. [/QUOTE]
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