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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 5115994" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>I'd prefer +5 but I'm OK with +4. I'll leave it up to Shade.</p><p></p><p>Let's get started on the adult then!</p><p></p><p>I mentioned earlier it has the same NA as a downsized Giant Stag Beetle (hereafter a GSB), so how about using that as a basis - it's about the right size (5-6 feet is half a GSB's 10 foot length and 4HD vs the GSB's 7HD).</p><p></p><p>Downsizing a GSB to Medium would give it Str 15, Dex 12, Con 13. I don't think it should have a higher Dex and lower Con than the larva (if anything, it should be the other way around), so I'll swap 2 points from one to t'other to make it Str 15, Dex 10, Con 15.</p><p></p><p>The adult doesn't have gills so should lose the Aquatic subtype, but I would think it should have the Hold Breath SQ since they can stay submerged for a long time. Somewhere between 4 and 8 times Constitution?</p><p></p><p>We'll also need to plug in in a 1d4 bite and a fly and swim speeds to match the AD&D adult diving beetle (also the same as a Giant Bombardier Beetle).</p><p></p><p>Altogether that would give something like:</p><p></p><p><strong>Adult Diving Beetle, Giant</strong></p><p>Medium Vermin</p><p>Hit Dice: 4d8+8 (26)</p><p>Initiative: +0</p><p>Speed: 20 ft. (4 squares), swim 40 ft., fly 20 ft. (average)</p><p>Armor Class: 18 (natural +8), touch 10, flat-footed 18</p><p>BAB/Grapple: +3/+5</p><p>Attack: Bite +5 melee (1d4+2)</p><p>Special Attack: None ?</p><p>Special Qualities: Darkvision 60 ft., hold breath [<span style="color: Red"><em><strong>Con*6?</strong></em></span>], vermin traits</p><p>Saves: Fort +6, Ref +1, Will +1</p><p>Abilities: Str 15, Dex 10, Con 15, Int 0, Wis 10, Cha 9</p><p></p><p>Hmm, matching the fly speed to the original's 9" looks too low to me - diving beetles are fairly good flyers, so I'd up it to 40 ft., or at least 30 ft.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 5115994, member: 57383"] I'd prefer +5 but I'm OK with +4. I'll leave it up to Shade. Let's get started on the adult then! I mentioned earlier it has the same NA as a downsized Giant Stag Beetle (hereafter a GSB), so how about using that as a basis - it's about the right size (5-6 feet is half a GSB's 10 foot length and 4HD vs the GSB's 7HD). Downsizing a GSB to Medium would give it Str 15, Dex 12, Con 13. I don't think it should have a higher Dex and lower Con than the larva (if anything, it should be the other way around), so I'll swap 2 points from one to t'other to make it Str 15, Dex 10, Con 15. The adult doesn't have gills so should lose the Aquatic subtype, but I would think it should have the Hold Breath SQ since they can stay submerged for a long time. Somewhere between 4 and 8 times Constitution? We'll also need to plug in in a 1d4 bite and a fly and swim speeds to match the AD&D adult diving beetle (also the same as a Giant Bombardier Beetle). Altogether that would give something like: [B]Adult Diving Beetle, Giant[/B] Medium Vermin Hit Dice: 4d8+8 (26) Initiative: +0 Speed: 20 ft. (4 squares), swim 40 ft., fly 20 ft. (average) Armor Class: 18 (natural +8), touch 10, flat-footed 18 BAB/Grapple: +3/+5 Attack: Bite +5 melee (1d4+2) Special Attack: None ? Special Qualities: Darkvision 60 ft., hold breath [[COLOR=Red][I][B]Con*6?[/B][/I][/COLOR]], vermin traits Saves: Fort +6, Ref +1, Will +1 Abilities: Str 15, Dex 10, Con 15, Int 0, Wis 10, Cha 9 Hmm, matching the fly speed to the original's 9" looks too low to me - diving beetles are fairly good flyers, so I'd up it to 40 ft., or at least 30 ft. [/QUOTE]
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