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<blockquote data-quote="Falling Icicle" data-source="post: 6595092" data-attributes="member: 17077"><p>That's only at 1st level, when spellcasting classes have the least number of slots. The warlock has the same number of slots at level 10 that he does at level 2, while other spellcasters have 15 spell slots by then. The warlocks slots are all higher level, but it still leaves the warlock in a really tight squeeze.</p><p></p><p>I don't mean to imply that the warlock is a terrible class or anything. Despite its flaws, I think it could be fun to play. I just find it incredibly odd that the designers think that the warlock's spell list has to be kept very small and not have any spells that would be "annoying" if they were cast "too often." The warlock doesn't really get to cast more total spells in a day than other classes do, unless it's a very unusual day with a lot of short rests. Even then, the warlock has to carefully conserve his power between rests. He only gets a couple of spell slots at a time and then has to rest again. It simply isn't possible for a warlock to cast his spells at a frequency that's anything close to "annoying."</p><p></p><p>They only let warlocks learn spells like <em>bane</em>, <em>bestow curse</em>, and <em>slow</em> via invocations that limit their use to once per day. But other spellcasters can cast those kinds of spells many times per day. If it's not annoying for a cleric to cast <em>bane</em> a dozen times per day, it can't be annoying for a warlock to do so. Ironically, a multiclass warlock/cleric, wizard, etc. can use his warlock spell slots to cast those very same spells. It just doesn't seem like they really thought that one through.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Falling Icicle, post: 6595092, member: 17077"] That's only at 1st level, when spellcasting classes have the least number of slots. The warlock has the same number of slots at level 10 that he does at level 2, while other spellcasters have 15 spell slots by then. The warlocks slots are all higher level, but it still leaves the warlock in a really tight squeeze. I don't mean to imply that the warlock is a terrible class or anything. Despite its flaws, I think it could be fun to play. I just find it incredibly odd that the designers think that the warlock's spell list has to be kept very small and not have any spells that would be "annoying" if they were cast "too often." The warlock doesn't really get to cast more total spells in a day than other classes do, unless it's a very unusual day with a lot of short rests. Even then, the warlock has to carefully conserve his power between rests. He only gets a couple of spell slots at a time and then has to rest again. It simply isn't possible for a warlock to cast his spells at a frequency that's anything close to "annoying." They only let warlocks learn spells like [I]bane[/I], [I]bestow curse[/I], and [I]slow[/I] via invocations that limit their use to once per day. But other spellcasters can cast those kinds of spells many times per day. If it's not annoying for a cleric to cast [I]bane[/I] a dozen times per day, it can't be annoying for a warlock to do so. Ironically, a multiclass warlock/cleric, wizard, etc. can use his warlock spell slots to cast those very same spells. It just doesn't seem like they really thought that one through. [/QUOTE]
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