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<blockquote data-quote="SKyOdin" data-source="post: 5958805" data-attributes="member: 57939"><p>You know what? It doesn't really matter if you individually don't care for balance. This isn't about trying to convince you that balance is good, this thread is a statement that it is a critically important element for a very large section of 5E's potential customer base.</p><p></p><p>In absence of exact figures, let's assume that half of all current potential D&D fans predominantly play 4E, while the other half generally don't like 4E and instead play games such as Pathfinder or retro-clones. If this is true, then any attempt to unify the split D&D fanbase needs to appeal in equal measure to 4E fans, non-4E fans, and people who have never even played D&D before.</p><p></p><p>Saying that you personally don't like balance is pretty meaningless in a thread that is citing what is important for literally at least half of 5E's potential playerbase.</p><p></p><p>If WotC just wanted to make a game that appealed just to you and other people who don't like 4E and what it did, it might be okay for them to ignore balance. But then it wouldn't really be an attempt to unify the split player-base, and they would lose the money and support of all those 4E-fans. I seriously doubt that if they lose the 4E-fanbase, the people who are actually giving them money right now, they would end up with the larger player-base they are so desperate for. Since if there is a roughly even split between Pathfinder fans and 4E fans, then they would be, at best, just trading one fanbase for the other, not making any net-gain in customers. In all likelihood, it could end up with an even smaller player-base than what 4E currently possesses.</p><p></p><p>There needs to be some concessions made to win 4E fans over, and despite what some people here seem to think, there is very little of 4E in what I have seen of D&D Next. If WotC doesn't try to win 4E fans over, than the "unified edition" will just end up being a lie.</p><p></p><p>Edit: Thinking about it, maybe I should clarify my position. It's okay to not like balance, but if you actually want a united fanbase and to play in the same edition with them again, you are going to need to suck it up and put up with balance in your D&D. If you don't want a united fanbase, then at least be honest about it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SKyOdin, post: 5958805, member: 57939"] You know what? It doesn't really matter if you individually don't care for balance. This isn't about trying to convince you that balance is good, this thread is a statement that it is a critically important element for a very large section of 5E's potential customer base. In absence of exact figures, let's assume that half of all current potential D&D fans predominantly play 4E, while the other half generally don't like 4E and instead play games such as Pathfinder or retro-clones. If this is true, then any attempt to unify the split D&D fanbase needs to appeal in equal measure to 4E fans, non-4E fans, and people who have never even played D&D before. Saying that you personally don't like balance is pretty meaningless in a thread that is citing what is important for literally at least half of 5E's potential playerbase. If WotC just wanted to make a game that appealed just to you and other people who don't like 4E and what it did, it might be okay for them to ignore balance. But then it wouldn't really be an attempt to unify the split player-base, and they would lose the money and support of all those 4E-fans. I seriously doubt that if they lose the 4E-fanbase, the people who are actually giving them money right now, they would end up with the larger player-base they are so desperate for. Since if there is a roughly even split between Pathfinder fans and 4E fans, then they would be, at best, just trading one fanbase for the other, not making any net-gain in customers. In all likelihood, it could end up with an even smaller player-base than what 4E currently possesses. There needs to be some concessions made to win 4E fans over, and despite what some people here seem to think, there is very little of 4E in what I have seen of D&D Next. If WotC doesn't try to win 4E fans over, than the "unified edition" will just end up being a lie. Edit: Thinking about it, maybe I should clarify my position. It's okay to not like balance, but if you actually want a united fanbase and to play in the same edition with them again, you are going to need to suck it up and put up with balance in your D&D. If you don't want a united fanbase, then at least be honest about it. [/QUOTE]
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