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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 5960675" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>There's really not that much to it, D&D ripped a lot of stuff, and what it held onto was mostly public domain to begin with (like 'orcs'), it's actual IP consists of little more than made-up proper nouns and a few monsters. Pathfinder is a good example of how close you can get to ripping D&D without touching that IP. Mostly, I'd think, it's the name of the game and the associated mystique that's worth something. And bringing back a fad in the classic marketing cycle is just the way to tap that.</p><p></p><p>It's hard for me to find anyone as cynical as I am. ;|</p><p></p><p>Trying to be fair to a group you don't have much sympathy for can easily come off as condescending, I suppose. Plus, after the CaS/CaW thread, I guess I'm expecting condescension...</p><p></p><p>Now we're talking an ideal world. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> I could so get behind that, particularly the adventures or setting or other fluff-heavy supplements supporting all 4. </p><p></p><p>I don't think they're intending to support 1e with new stuff, just harvest some cash with collectors'-item reprints. It's a quicker way to cash in on the retro-clone nostalgia trend than creating a new game or new material. </p><p></p><p>There I go being cynical again....</p><p></p><p></p><p>Fan of 4e that I am, I'm not seeing it either. AD&D would seem to deliver on the promise of the heroic warrior utterly dependent on his Vorpal Sword to have any chance of decapitating a dragon. And no edition does the 'lone hero' well, for that matter.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 5960675, member: 996"] There's really not that much to it, D&D ripped a lot of stuff, and what it held onto was mostly public domain to begin with (like 'orcs'), it's actual IP consists of little more than made-up proper nouns and a few monsters. Pathfinder is a good example of how close you can get to ripping D&D without touching that IP. Mostly, I'd think, it's the name of the game and the associated mystique that's worth something. And bringing back a fad in the classic marketing cycle is just the way to tap that. It's hard for me to find anyone as cynical as I am. ;| Trying to be fair to a group you don't have much sympathy for can easily come off as condescending, I suppose. Plus, after the CaS/CaW thread, I guess I'm expecting condescension... Now we're talking an ideal world. :) I could so get behind that, particularly the adventures or setting or other fluff-heavy supplements supporting all 4. I don't think they're intending to support 1e with new stuff, just harvest some cash with collectors'-item reprints. It's a quicker way to cash in on the retro-clone nostalgia trend than creating a new game or new material. There I go being cynical again.... Fan of 4e that I am, I'm not seeing it either. AD&D would seem to deliver on the promise of the heroic warrior utterly dependent on his Vorpal Sword to have any chance of decapitating a dragon. And no edition does the 'lone hero' well, for that matter. [/QUOTE]
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