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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 5961891" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>May well have been. There was not a lot of vocal defense of 3.5, and what there was wasn't always the most strident. I often found myself defending the 3.5 fighter, for instance, but often merely by pointing out that the real problem was casters, and admitting that the balance issues could be solved only with a lot of DM effort (but that such effort was worth it). I can even think of a few examples of critics of 3.5 who immediately became even harsher critics of 4e. Roxlimn, I recall, being harshly critical of 3.5, but then being aghast at the 4e wizard, for instance, and I seem to recall Polaris being harshly critical of both 3.5 and 4e, and now 5e, as well. I don't notice many posters enough to remember their handles and positions on issues - like me, they were /very/ active on the forums.</p><p></p><p>It's possible that there was some sort of 'silent majority' standing complacently behind 3.5 that radicalized upon the announcement of 4e. </p><p></p><p>Call my cynical - you have before, and I /am/ - but, in retrospect, I get the feeling that the complaining wasn't about wanting a solution so much as gratifying an urge to complain.</p><p></p><p>We were in the same boat, then. I found 3e to have some very good points, and often 'defended' it, but knew it was far from perfect, and that it was acceptable for it to be that far from perfectly mainly just because it /was/ D&D.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 5961891, member: 996"] May well have been. There was not a lot of vocal defense of 3.5, and what there was wasn't always the most strident. I often found myself defending the 3.5 fighter, for instance, but often merely by pointing out that the real problem was casters, and admitting that the balance issues could be solved only with a lot of DM effort (but that such effort was worth it). I can even think of a few examples of critics of 3.5 who immediately became even harsher critics of 4e. Roxlimn, I recall, being harshly critical of 3.5, but then being aghast at the 4e wizard, for instance, and I seem to recall Polaris being harshly critical of both 3.5 and 4e, and now 5e, as well. I don't notice many posters enough to remember their handles and positions on issues - like me, they were /very/ active on the forums. It's possible that there was some sort of 'silent majority' standing complacently behind 3.5 that radicalized upon the announcement of 4e. Call my cynical - you have before, and I /am/ - but, in retrospect, I get the feeling that the complaining wasn't about wanting a solution so much as gratifying an urge to complain. We were in the same boat, then. I found 3e to have some very good points, and often 'defended' it, but knew it was far from perfect, and that it was acceptable for it to be that far from perfectly mainly just because it /was/ D&D. [/QUOTE]
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