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<blockquote data-quote="Patryn of Elvenshae" data-source="post: 5963258" data-attributes="member: 23094"><p>Agreed - but I'd add "or designed to highlight things I don't really care for" to your "poorly designed."</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Of course [MENTION=85555]Bedrockgames[/MENTION] intentions were what you thought they were. I thought he was saying the same thing, as well! It's been perfectly clear all along what BRG was saying.</p><p></p><p>I'm saying that I do not agree with him that the opinion "4E (or 3E, or 2E, or whatever) is not a roleplaying game / is not D&D" is fine because it really means something else. Those kinds of statements are unhelpful and need to stop showing up in conversations.</p><p></p><p>Instead, if the poster's point is that "Well, I think 4E places too much emphasis on tactical combat" or "Well, I think 3E places too much importance on fiddly and unbalanced character creation and advancement bits," then they should just come right out and say that, rather than insulting an entire playerbase - "You aren't playing <em>real</em> D&D; you're not actually roleplaying."</p><p></p><p>I do not see how this is a controversial position that you should avoid writing off whole swathes of the D&D family.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Patryn of Elvenshae, post: 5963258, member: 23094"] Agreed - but I'd add "or designed to highlight things I don't really care for" to your "poorly designed." Of course [MENTION=85555]Bedrockgames[/MENTION] intentions were what you thought they were. I thought he was saying the same thing, as well! It's been perfectly clear all along what BRG was saying. I'm saying that I do not agree with him that the opinion "4E (or 3E, or 2E, or whatever) is not a roleplaying game / is not D&D" is fine because it really means something else. Those kinds of statements are unhelpful and need to stop showing up in conversations. Instead, if the poster's point is that "Well, I think 4E places too much emphasis on tactical combat" or "Well, I think 3E places too much importance on fiddly and unbalanced character creation and advancement bits," then they should just come right out and say that, rather than insulting an entire playerbase - "You aren't playing [i]real[/i] D&D; you're not actually roleplaying." I do not see how this is a controversial position that you should avoid writing off whole swathes of the D&D family. [/QUOTE]
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