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<blockquote data-quote="Zeromaru X" data-source="post: 7234581" data-attributes="member: 65487"><p>Late to the party, but... you already had discussed most of the stuff I also think about the Vanilla 4e-Essentials conundrum, so my two cents.</p><p></p><p>I do like what Essentials did to the races, giving them more flexibility. I liked that you had a fixed +2, and the other +2 you can chose between other two abilities. It gave you more freedom to use races, less mechanically tying them to specific classes. I know this started in the PHB 3 (or in the DSCS), but Essentials standardized it to the common races of the PHBs.</p><p></p><p>However, I never liked what they did with the Essentials humans, giving them an "Heroic Effort", like if only humans were the only race capable of heroic stuff. I never use nor allow the Essentials humans in my campaigns. </p><p></p><p>Another stuff I really like of Essentials is the fluff. 4e core books really lacked that. I do like the Nentir Vale setting and all its lore (I'm sure many here already know that, <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> ). And the Essentials books gave us a lot of fluff for the core races of this setting, making them something unique if you compared them with their equivalents in other settings.</p><p></p><p>But that is all I like about Essentials. For the rest, I always stick to Core.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zeromaru X, post: 7234581, member: 65487"] Late to the party, but... you already had discussed most of the stuff I also think about the Vanilla 4e-Essentials conundrum, so my two cents. I do like what Essentials did to the races, giving them more flexibility. I liked that you had a fixed +2, and the other +2 you can chose between other two abilities. It gave you more freedom to use races, less mechanically tying them to specific classes. I know this started in the PHB 3 (or in the DSCS), but Essentials standardized it to the common races of the PHBs. However, I never liked what they did with the Essentials humans, giving them an "Heroic Effort", like if only humans were the only race capable of heroic stuff. I never use nor allow the Essentials humans in my campaigns. Another stuff I really like of Essentials is the fluff. 4e core books really lacked that. I do like the Nentir Vale setting and all its lore (I'm sure many here already know that, ;) ). And the Essentials books gave us a lot of fluff for the core races of this setting, making them something unique if you compared them with their equivalents in other settings. But that is all I like about Essentials. For the rest, I always stick to Core. [/QUOTE]
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