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<blockquote data-quote="Morgan Keyes" data-source="post: 3190520" data-attributes="member: 15965"><p>Well, since you threw it out there...</p><p></p><p>-<strong>Heavy Assault Garbage Truck:</strong> 1) Consider dropping the Hardness. If we are keeping with D20 Modern as a baseline then a Hardness 15 places it on the level of an M2 Bradley. Given the material is likely less then mil-spec armor-grade, and it being an add-on kludge then maybe the Hardness only being what one would see on an M113 or VAB. Thus maybe Hardness between 8-12 (lower range to account for gaps/weak points on a garage-build). 2) Maybe list the weapon mounts as general-purpose pintel mounts. Why the suggestion? Well, heavy machineguns may be hard to come by, and ammo moreso. Thus they can be used for some other weapon that may be easier to acquire ammo for, like an RPK, RPD, PKM, or other light to medium machinegun that's able to feed rounds used by common assault rifles found in urban gangs and/or militias. This also lets the embarked squad dismount those SAWs or General Purpose Machineguns (GPMGs) when they deploy from the transport. </p><p></p><p>-<strong>V-series Commando:</strong> 1) If you are trying to model the smoke grenade launchers, do not list them like an M79. These are fixed on the hull and cannot be aimed beyond orienting the vehicle. These should fire out to a fixed distance. Also, such grenades are in the ~65mm range and thus larger then the 40mm's used by an M79 or M203. To borrow from <u>D20 Military Vehicles</u>, you would get 3 'shots' (figure one pattern firing 2 grenades per launcher cluster) firing out to 50'/20m and at 1.5 to 2 times the radius of a 40mm launcher grenade and across a strafeing-type row of squares. 2) Other vehicles to consider for the AOH (since the Commandos really didn't get out to the Reserves or Guard; mainly SWAT-versions or the M1117 Armored Security Vehicles used by Military Police (and thus not APC's)) would be BTR-70/80's, Vickers Simbas, French VABs, and other light wheeled armor that are available on the international market and could potentially be picked up by a 'security firm' (which is another way to explain the AOH getting vehicles of the V-100/150/300 series).</p><p></p><p>As an aside, this brings to mind a modification I've seen by Special Forces to some LMTVs (the replacement for the old M35 2 1/2 ton truck, aka "The Deuce and a Half"). Sometimes called the Ground Resupply Vehicle, but more commonly known as the "War Pig", these LMTVs are modified to act as "motherships" for GMVs (HMMWVs modified for SOF use) carrying fuel and water cans, spare tires and ammo, a crane for this about, and modified trailer to increase capacity. The War Pig also has several swing arm mounts forward and a pintel on the rear deck able to accept .50 cal or Mk. 19 (or Mk. 47). The first War Pigs were converted by backyard mechanics, wood, PVC, and fittings from Home Depot. Now some improved versions are being examined and purpose built.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Morgan Keyes, post: 3190520, member: 15965"] Well, since you threw it out there... -[B]Heavy Assault Garbage Truck:[/B] 1) Consider dropping the Hardness. If we are keeping with D20 Modern as a baseline then a Hardness 15 places it on the level of an M2 Bradley. Given the material is likely less then mil-spec armor-grade, and it being an add-on kludge then maybe the Hardness only being what one would see on an M113 or VAB. Thus maybe Hardness between 8-12 (lower range to account for gaps/weak points on a garage-build). 2) Maybe list the weapon mounts as general-purpose pintel mounts. Why the suggestion? Well, heavy machineguns may be hard to come by, and ammo moreso. Thus they can be used for some other weapon that may be easier to acquire ammo for, like an RPK, RPD, PKM, or other light to medium machinegun that's able to feed rounds used by common assault rifles found in urban gangs and/or militias. This also lets the embarked squad dismount those SAWs or General Purpose Machineguns (GPMGs) when they deploy from the transport. -[B]V-series Commando:[/B] 1) If you are trying to model the smoke grenade launchers, do not list them like an M79. These are fixed on the hull and cannot be aimed beyond orienting the vehicle. These should fire out to a fixed distance. Also, such grenades are in the ~65mm range and thus larger then the 40mm's used by an M79 or M203. To borrow from [U]D20 Military Vehicles[/U], you would get 3 'shots' (figure one pattern firing 2 grenades per launcher cluster) firing out to 50'/20m and at 1.5 to 2 times the radius of a 40mm launcher grenade and across a strafeing-type row of squares. 2) Other vehicles to consider for the AOH (since the Commandos really didn't get out to the Reserves or Guard; mainly SWAT-versions or the M1117 Armored Security Vehicles used by Military Police (and thus not APC's)) would be BTR-70/80's, Vickers Simbas, French VABs, and other light wheeled armor that are available on the international market and could potentially be picked up by a 'security firm' (which is another way to explain the AOH getting vehicles of the V-100/150/300 series). As an aside, this brings to mind a modification I've seen by Special Forces to some LMTVs (the replacement for the old M35 2 1/2 ton truck, aka "The Deuce and a Half"). Sometimes called the Ground Resupply Vehicle, but more commonly known as the "War Pig", these LMTVs are modified to act as "motherships" for GMVs (HMMWVs modified for SOF use) carrying fuel and water cans, spare tires and ammo, a crane for this about, and modified trailer to increase capacity. The War Pig also has several swing arm mounts forward and a pintel on the rear deck able to accept .50 cal or Mk. 19 (or Mk. 47). The first War Pigs were converted by backyard mechanics, wood, PVC, and fittings from Home Depot. Now some improved versions are being examined and purpose built. [/QUOTE]
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