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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 7915939" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>Well I've come across a puzzler.</p><p></p><p>There are two constructs in the Creature Catalog.</p><p></p><p>Firstly, there's the 3.5 "Golem, Statue that Walks" in the regular CC, credited to the 1E AD&D <em>FR6 - Dreams of the Red Wizards</em> (1988).</p><p></p><p>Secondly, there's 3.0 "Stone Colossus" in the Crypt, credited to the 2E AD&D <em>FR10 Old Empires</em> (1990). Presumably it was assigned to the Crypt because it shares a name with the Epic Level Handbook's Stone Colossus, despite the two monsters being</p><p></p><p>The problem? They're the same monster! The 2E version even flat out says "<em>Of the magical warriors, the only ones that survive are the Statues-That-Walk, also known as stone colossi</em>" so despite the MC entry naming them "Colossus, Stone" this is just an alternative "aka" name for them.</p><p></p><p>So I'm thinking the 3.0 version might need rescuing from the Crypt and both versions need a rename, at least in the CC index if not necessarily in the monster writeups themselves. Maybe to "Golem, Stone Colossus (Statue-That-Walks)"?</p><p></p><p>Should we change the source of the 3.0 version to FR6 and add a note that it was originally named "Statue that Walks" then renamed "Stone Colossus" in FR10? It might help to have a note on the 3.5 version about the name change too.</p><p></p><p>Actually, neither CC version mention the other name, unlike the original AD&D text there's no "also known as" bit in the CC description. I'd consider adding a sentence to both version's description explicating their two names.</p><p></p><p>Also, I'd consider adding the Inspire Terror ability of the 3.0 version to the 3.5 one.</p><p></p><p>Or perhaps we should leave the existing 3.0 and 3.5 versions as they are and add a new updated version incorporating the above suggestions? That way we won't "pollute" the original conversions with alterations.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 7915939, member: 57383"] Well I've come across a puzzler. There are two constructs in the Creature Catalog. Firstly, there's the 3.5 "Golem, Statue that Walks" in the regular CC, credited to the 1E AD&D [I]FR6 - Dreams of the Red Wizards[/I] (1988). Secondly, there's 3.0 "Stone Colossus" in the Crypt, credited to the 2E AD&D [I]FR10 Old Empires[/I] (1990). Presumably it was assigned to the Crypt because it shares a name with the Epic Level Handbook's Stone Colossus, despite the two monsters being The problem? They're the same monster! The 2E version even flat out says "[I]Of the magical warriors, the only ones that survive are the Statues-That-Walk, also known as stone colossi[/I]" so despite the MC entry naming them "Colossus, Stone" this is just an alternative "aka" name for them. So I'm thinking the 3.0 version might need rescuing from the Crypt and both versions need a rename, at least in the CC index if not necessarily in the monster writeups themselves. Maybe to "Golem, Stone Colossus (Statue-That-Walks)"? Should we change the source of the 3.0 version to FR6 and add a note that it was originally named "Statue that Walks" then renamed "Stone Colossus" in FR10? It might help to have a note on the 3.5 version about the name change too. Actually, neither CC version mention the other name, unlike the original AD&D text there's no "also known as" bit in the CC description. I'd consider adding a sentence to both version's description explicating their two names. Also, I'd consider adding the Inspire Terror ability of the 3.0 version to the 3.5 one. Or perhaps we should leave the existing 3.0 and 3.5 versions as they are and add a new updated version incorporating the above suggestions? That way we won't "pollute" the original conversions with alterations. [/QUOTE]
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