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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 8260071" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>After starting the Mayfair Monsters thread I glanced through a few of the conversions we did and spotted a slight error in one.</p><p></p><p>The <strong><a href="https://enworld.org/index.php?posts/6182388" target="_blank">Valet Droid</a></strong> had 1 Hit Dice but its advancement is "3-6 HD (Medium)".</p><p></p><p>Obviously it ought to start at 2 HD, so should presumably be "2-6 HD (Medium)" - I'm fine keeping the advancement all Medium rather than making it, say, "2-3 HD (Medium); 4-6 HD (Large)" to allow for centaur-sized robobutlers.</p><p></p><p>Although a centaur robovalet is an alluring idea, especially considering the "Masters" who created the Fez series droids were centauroid aliens…</p><p></p><p>I'm tempted to edit in the following <span style="color: purple"><strong>Cleon Special™ Bonus</strong></span>:</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 22px">Variant Valet Droids</span></strong></p><p>Bigger and smaller models of valet droid exist, as well as particularly expensive top-of-the-range models with advanced Hit Dice, increased special abilities and the elite ability array. Examples of these follow:</p><p></p><p><strong>Large Valet Droid</strong> (Large Construct; <em>Hit Dice:</em> 2d10+30 (41 hp); <em>Init:</em> +0; <em>Speed:</em> 30 ft. (6 squares); <em>AC:</em> 15 (-1 size, +6 natural), touch 9, flat-footed 15; <em>Base Attack/Grapple:</em> +1/+8; <em>Attack:</em> Slam -2 melee (1d4+1); <em>Full Attack:</em> Slam -2 melee (1d4+1); <em>Space/Reach:</em> 10 ft./10 ft. [<em>Tall</em>] or 10 ft./5 ft. [<em>Long</em>]; <em>Special Qualities:</em> Construct traits, data slots, radiospeech, robot traits; <em>Saves:</em> Fort +0, Ref +0, Will +0; <em>Abilities:</em> Str 16, Dex 10, Con —, Int 10, Wis 11, Cha 11; <em>CR:</em> 1; <em>Advancement:</em> 3-8 HD [Large])</p><p></p><p><em>Skills & <em>Feats:</em></em> Heal +5, Sense Motive +8, plus crystal card skills (typically Craft [any one] +3, Diplomacy +3, Profession [any one] +4); <em>Feats:</em> Skill Focus (Sense Motive)</p><p></p><p>Large Valet Droids can be divided into Long models (such as centauroids) and Tall models (such as ogroids) depending on the bodyshape of the creature they are modeled after.</p><p></p><p><strong>Small Valet Droid</strong> (Small Construct; <em>Hit Dice:</em> 1d10+10 (15 hp); <em>Init:</em> +0; <em>Speed:</em> 30 ft. (6 squares); <em>AC:</em> 14 (+1 size, +3 natural), touch 11, flat-footed 14; <em>Base Attack/Grapple:</em> +0/-5; <em>Attack:</em> Slam -5 melee (1d2-1); <em>Full Attack:</em> Slam -5 melee (1d2-1); <em>Space/Reach:</em> 5 ft./5 ft.; <em>Special Qualities:</em> Construct traits, data slots, radiospeech, robot traits; <em>Saves:</em> Fort +0, Ref +0, Will +0; <em>Abilities:</em> Str 8, Dex 10, Con —, Int 10, Wis 11, Cha 11; <em>CR:</em> 1/6; <em>Advancement:</em> 2-4 HD [Small])</p><p></p><p><em>Skills & <em>Feats:</em></em> Heal +4, Sense Motive +7, plus crystal card skills (typically Craft [any one] +3, Diplomacy +3, Profession [any one] +4); <em>Feats:</em> Skill Focus (Sense Motive)</p><p></p><p><strong>Luxury Valet Droid</strong> (Medium Construct; <em>Hit Dice:</em> 6d10+20 (53 hp); <em>Init:</em> +1; <em>Speed:</em> 30 ft. (6 squares); <em>AC:</em> 15 (+1 Dex, +4 natural), touch 11, flat-footed 14; <em>Base Attack/Grapple:</em> +4/+5; <em>Attack:</em> Slam +5 melee (1d3+1); <em>Full Attack:</em> 2 slams +5 melee (1d3+1); <em>Space/Reach:</em> 5 ft./5 ft.; <em>Special Qualities:</em> Construct traits, advanced data slots, radarsight, radiospeech, robot traits; <em>Saves:</em> Fort +2, Ref +3, Will +4; <em>Abilities:</em> Str 12, Dex 12, Con —, Int 14, Wis 15, Cha 18; <em>CR:</em> 2; <em>Advancement:</em> None)</p><p></p><p><em>Skills & <em>Feats:</em></em> Diplomacy +18, Heal +14, Gather Information +13, Sense Motive +14, plus crystal card skills (typically Craft [any one] +10, Perform [any one] +12, Profession [any one] +10, Speak Language [eight additional languages]); <em>Feats:</em> Skill Focus (Diplomacy, Heal, Sense Motive)</p><p></p><p>Unlike normal models, a luxury valet droid's slam attacks are normal attacks. Luxury valets generally have radarsight and advanced data slots able to fit up to four crystal cards that may hold 8 extra skill points each in any Dex-, Int-, Wis-, or Cha-based skill (see <strong><a href="https://enworld.org/index.php?posts/6267752" target="_blank"><strong>Warrior Droid</strong></a></strong> for these abilities' descriptions). Some luxury valet droids also have the toolmaster arms ability of a <a href="https://enworld.org/index.php?posts/6108846" target="_blank"><strong><strong>Servitor Droid</strong></strong></a> or a weapon concealed in an arm or the head, generally a laser pistol like the <strong><a href="https://enworld.org/index.php?posts/6267752" target="_blank"><strong>Warrior Droid</strong></a></strong> or a sleep projector and/or a light laser like the protector-variant <strong><a href="https://enworld.org/index.php?posts/5992280" target="_blank"><strong>Guardian Droid</strong></a></strong>. These are often custom modifications and such droids are rare, and possibly illegal (many jurisdiction prohibit lethal weapons and thieves' tools in domestic-model droids).</p><p></p><p>EDIT: Technically it isn't a "Corrections to Monsters in the CC" issue since the Mayfair conversions are excluded from the Creature Catalog as it's an unofficial source, but here seems a logical place to post this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 8260071, member: 57383"] After starting the Mayfair Monsters thread I glanced through a few of the conversions we did and spotted a slight error in one. The [B][URL='https://enworld.org/index.php?posts/6182388']Valet Droid[/URL][/B] had 1 Hit Dice but its advancement is "3-6 HD (Medium)". Obviously it ought to start at 2 HD, so should presumably be "2-6 HD (Medium)" - I'm fine keeping the advancement all Medium rather than making it, say, "2-3 HD (Medium); 4-6 HD (Large)" to allow for centaur-sized robobutlers. Although a centaur robovalet is an alluring idea, especially considering the "Masters" who created the Fez series droids were centauroid aliens… I'm tempted to edit in the following [COLOR=purple][B]Cleon Special™ Bonus[/B][/COLOR]: [B][SIZE=6]Variant Valet Droids[/SIZE][/B] Bigger and smaller models of valet droid exist, as well as particularly expensive top-of-the-range models with advanced Hit Dice, increased special abilities and the elite ability array. Examples of these follow: [B]Large Valet Droid[/B] (Large Construct; [I]Hit Dice:[/I] 2d10+30 (41 hp); [I]Init:[/I] +0; [I]Speed:[/I] 30 ft. (6 squares); [I]AC:[/I] 15 (-1 size, +6 natural), touch 9, flat-footed 15; [I]Base Attack/Grapple:[/I] +1/+8; [I]Attack:[/I] Slam -2 melee (1d4+1); [I]Full Attack:[/I] Slam -2 melee (1d4+1); [I]Space/Reach:[/I] 10 ft./10 ft. [[I]Tall[/I]] or 10 ft./5 ft. [[I]Long[/I]]; [I]Special Qualities:[/I] Construct traits, data slots, radiospeech, robot traits; [I]Saves:[/I] Fort +0, Ref +0, Will +0; [I]Abilities:[/I] Str 16, Dex 10, Con —, Int 10, Wis 11, Cha 11; [I]CR:[/I] 1; [I]Advancement:[/I] 3-8 HD [Large]) [I]Skills & [I]Feats:[/I][/I] Heal +5, Sense Motive +8, plus crystal card skills (typically Craft [any one] +3, Diplomacy +3, Profession [any one] +4); [I]Feats:[/I] Skill Focus (Sense Motive) Large Valet Droids can be divided into Long models (such as centauroids) and Tall models (such as ogroids) depending on the bodyshape of the creature they are modeled after. [B]Small Valet Droid[/B] (Small Construct; [I]Hit Dice:[/I] 1d10+10 (15 hp); [I]Init:[/I] +0; [I]Speed:[/I] 30 ft. (6 squares); [I]AC:[/I] 14 (+1 size, +3 natural), touch 11, flat-footed 14; [I]Base Attack/Grapple:[/I] +0/-5; [I]Attack:[/I] Slam -5 melee (1d2-1); [I]Full Attack:[/I] Slam -5 melee (1d2-1); [I]Space/Reach:[/I] 5 ft./5 ft.; [I]Special Qualities:[/I] Construct traits, data slots, radiospeech, robot traits; [I]Saves:[/I] Fort +0, Ref +0, Will +0; [I]Abilities:[/I] Str 8, Dex 10, Con —, Int 10, Wis 11, Cha 11; [I]CR:[/I] 1/6; [I]Advancement:[/I] 2-4 HD [Small]) [I]Skills & [I]Feats:[/I][/I] Heal +4, Sense Motive +7, plus crystal card skills (typically Craft [any one] +3, Diplomacy +3, Profession [any one] +4); [I]Feats:[/I] Skill Focus (Sense Motive) [B]Luxury Valet Droid[/B] (Medium Construct; [I]Hit Dice:[/I] 6d10+20 (53 hp); [I]Init:[/I] +1; [I]Speed:[/I] 30 ft. (6 squares); [I]AC:[/I] 15 (+1 Dex, +4 natural), touch 11, flat-footed 14; [I]Base Attack/Grapple:[/I] +4/+5; [I]Attack:[/I] Slam +5 melee (1d3+1); [I]Full Attack:[/I] 2 slams +5 melee (1d3+1); [I]Space/Reach:[/I] 5 ft./5 ft.; [I]Special Qualities:[/I] Construct traits, advanced data slots, radarsight, radiospeech, robot traits; [I]Saves:[/I] Fort +2, Ref +3, Will +4; [I]Abilities:[/I] Str 12, Dex 12, Con —, Int 14, Wis 15, Cha 18; [I]CR:[/I] 2; [I]Advancement:[/I] None) [I]Skills & [I]Feats:[/I][/I] Diplomacy +18, Heal +14, Gather Information +13, Sense Motive +14, plus crystal card skills (typically Craft [any one] +10, Perform [any one] +12, Profession [any one] +10, Speak Language [eight additional languages]); [I]Feats:[/I] Skill Focus (Diplomacy, Heal, Sense Motive) Unlike normal models, a luxury valet droid's slam attacks are normal attacks. Luxury valets generally have radarsight and advanced data slots able to fit up to four crystal cards that may hold 8 extra skill points each in any Dex-, Int-, Wis-, or Cha-based skill (see [B][URL='https://enworld.org/index.php?posts/6267752'][B]Warrior Droid[/B][/URL][/B] for these abilities' descriptions). Some luxury valet droids also have the toolmaster arms ability of a [URL='https://enworld.org/index.php?posts/6108846'][B][B]Servitor Droid[/B][/B][/URL] or a weapon concealed in an arm or the head, generally a laser pistol like the [B][URL='https://enworld.org/index.php?posts/6267752'][B]Warrior Droid[/B][/URL][/B] or a sleep projector and/or a light laser like the protector-variant [B][URL='https://enworld.org/index.php?posts/5992280'][B]Guardian Droid[/B][/URL][/B]. These are often custom modifications and such droids are rare, and possibly illegal (many jurisdiction prohibit lethal weapons and thieves' tools in domestic-model droids). EDIT: Technically it isn't a "Corrections to Monsters in the CC" issue since the Mayfair conversions are excluded from the Creature Catalog as it's an unofficial source, but here seems a logical place to post this. [/QUOTE]
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